Subject: Is belief in the bible needed to be save |
Bible Note: I knew you would like it. WOS "The article you use to support the claim that the New Testament is not the Word of God very definitely points out that in fact, we can know it is the Word of God. So your stance is now what?" Clearly I was using the article to point out how blind faith "I believe because the bible tells me to" is not the best approach or the only approach, as you say, the bible allows for. I purposely used an article where the author referenced the bible and believes, as you, that the bible is the WOG. I was hoping it would carry more weight with you. I thought we moved off the WOG debate and moved to a where does faith come from debate. Back to WOG If you read the article with the question in mind "does this prove the bible the WOG" it surly does not. It’s clearly the author’s opinion which he holds strongly as do you. You cannot prove the bible is the WOG by using the bible alone or saying it's the WOG because it says it is. I think that’s called circular reasoning or something like that and you, I suspect wouldn't stand for it in any other area except this one. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to prove to you that the bible is not the WOG. I'm here as I think hetfield is as well, looking for enough evidence to take the leap of faith with confidence. I have been duped before and it will not happen again. Enough evidence in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit exist outside the bible for me to believe. There is enough historical evidence that proves to me the bible is accurate, however I have not seen enough to believe it is the WOG or why it even needs to be. Let me explain it this way; Some WOG believers believe that the only bible without error is the original manuscripts and that minor errors have occurred during translation. Does this make the bible any less valuable to the WOG believers, no of course not? Some guy who spoke all the languages of the original documents and was a strict manuscript only guy may say to you, your bible isn't the WOG because of translation issues, why do you read it? He may be right but would it matter to you? You study the bible apply it to your life and learn from it, isn't that what is important? If I believe its truth and hetfield believes its truth, as he states, and we apply it to our lives. Isn’t that what’s important? I read the bible go to my bible studies and look to the bible for guidance. If someone in here gave me enough evidence to convince me that the bible is Gods word my life wouldn't change all that much, as I said earlier I would be allowed to join my church is about all. Thanks for responding and I'm glad you liked the article. |