Subject: Is belief in the bible needed to be save |
Bible Note: Lead Pipe, Have you actually read this article? It puts to rest any claims that you and hetfeild have made that the New Testament is not the Word of God. This totally shoots down your reasoning, and in no way supports your stance. Read the Scripture it notes as you read the article. Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. According to your position, this reference would be irrelevant because you claim the New Testament is not the Word of God. 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Study what? According to you, this would be referencing the Old Testament. Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Read further in Acts 17. This Article quotes Acts 17:11 that they searched the Scriptures daily. Reading further in v13 Paul is preaching the word of God. But yet even further in v19 what Paul is preaching is referred to as a new Doctrine. So what was new? Was it that the Old Testament was new to these Greeks or was Paul preaching the word of God beyond what the Old Testament taught? 13But when the Jews of Thessalonica had knowledge that the word of God was preached of Paul at Berea, they came thither also, and stirred up the people. 19And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is? Quotes from this article: 1. “God expects every individual to put to the test various doctrines and beliefs, and then to reach only such conclusions as are warranted by adequate evidence. Rather, all people are obligated to rely upon the properly studied written directives of God (2 Timothy 2:15; John 12:48; 2 Peter 3:16)” Wait a minute, the article quotes New Testament verses as written directives of God. But you say they are not. So tell me Lead Pipe, are they or are they not “written directives of God”? 2. “The Bible insists that evidence is abundantly available for those who will engage in unprejudiced, rational inquiry.” You’ll notice in my post to hetfield, I made the same claim. Our evidence, as this article points out, is the Gospel and New Testament. These are the things that we cannot see and must rely on their accurate witness. 3. “we can know that the Bible is the verbally inspired Word of God, and intended to be comprehended in much the same way that any written human communication is to be understood;” The article you use to support the claim that the New Testament is not the Word of God very definitely points out that in fact, we can know it is the Word of God. So your stance is now what? That only the Old Testament is being referenced in this article? 4. “By abandoning the Bible as a literal, inerrant, infallible standard by which all human behavior is to be measured, the scientist has effectively rendered biblical religion, biblical faith, and New Testament Christianity sterile…” The Bible can only be infallible if it is the inspired Word of God. You are part of those making New Testament Christianity sterile when you abandon it as inerrant and infallible and you do just that when you claim it was simply written by men and not God. All men our fallible. Only God is not. So you see, your argument that the New Testament is not the inspired Word of God has no substance. It’s a weak argument at most and easily refuted. You disproved your claim yourself with this article. Thank you for the article. I found it very informative. WOS |