Subject: Crucify the flesh |
Bible Note: Asis Okay I read all the scripture. I read your statements and I still haven't figured out what your trying to say. Maybe I’m very thick.. Here is what I have deduced from your writings past and present. Yes you do sin but …????? I think your saying you chose to ignore them. Jesus said if we love Him we would obey him. To me that sounds like we have a choice. I think Paul is telling us here that we have control the flesh, Romans 6:12-13 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. [13] And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. Romans 6:16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? Romans 6:19 I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness. Here Paul through this dialogue proves our flesh is still sinful and rebels against righteousness. Romans 7:14-25 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. [15] For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. [16] If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. [17] But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. [18] For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. [19] For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. [20] Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. [21] I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. [22] For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. [23] But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. [24] O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? [25] I thank God--through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin. Paul concludes saying he must serve God in spirit knowing the flesh still wants to serve sin. In other words he must crucify the flesh (overcome it) to live the righteous life he desires. Now is this what your saying or are you saying what I deduced that you sin but chose to ignore it? Or what exactly are you saying? Giving a whole bunch of scripture tells me little about how you interpret it. EdB |