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NASB | James 2:19 You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | James 2:19 You believe that God is one; you do well [to believe that]. The demons also believe [that], and shudder and bristle [in awe-filled terror--they have seen His wrath]! [Deut 6:4; 11:13-21; Mark 12:29] |
Subject: Is God ONE or is God THREE? |
Bible Note: Dear Tim, My name is David, beliver 57 is my father, by his permission I am writing this in response to your last post. Answers to the points you have made. *Your explanation for Elohiym; True Abraham means father of multitudes...but what does that have to do with the fact that Elohiym is plural? *You reject any post apostolic teaching on the trinity. Why then does Paul in his letters use the greeting "Grace be to you and peace from God the Father and from our Lord Jesus Christ"? Why wouldnt he just say "...peace from Jesus Christ our God"? What did Paul mean in II Corinthians 13:14? What did he mean in Galatians 4:4-6 by "...God sent forth His Son..."? Sounds to me like Paul(the Apostle) understood the trinity very well. *Three persons, one God.(old Test) -Gen 1:26 "...let Us create man in Our image, after our likeness...". Who do you think God was talking to? If you are going to use the "majestic plurality" excuse, I will be requiring examples from other Hebrew writings were this same figure of speach was used. -Psalm 2:7-8 "...Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee..." -Psalm 110:1 "The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool" (Let me get this straight, God was telling himself, to sit on his own right hand, until he made his own enemies, his own footstool?) **New Testament** -Mark 1:11 "...Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" -John 14:28 "...my Father is greater than I." -John 12:49 "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me..." -John 6:38 "For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me" -Matt 26:39 "...nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." -John 16:13 "...he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak..." (note: the fact that the Holy Spirit speaks indicates a PERSONALITY) -John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God..." *Your figurative definition for Son of God was a stretch, I couldnt find it in Webster's, The American Heritage College Dictionary, Strongs Greek Dictionary/Lexicon(huios), Youngs Analitical Concordance to the Bible. Wouldnt you agree that by applying "figurative or allegorical" interpritation to scripture, one could force the text to mean anything?. *You often refered to the verses that point to the fact that Christ was in God and God was in Christ. -Yes, this points obviously to the unity of God -However it does not support your theory that there is not a Trinity. Ex: John 6:56 "He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him"...just because I am in Jesus and Jesus is in me, does this mean that I am not a seperate person from Jesus? *Final note, to you and others that may be reading these posts. Sabellianism/Modalism is a heresy(by that I mean "a controversial or unorthodox opinion or doctrine, contrary to accepted dogma of Christianity"). Also, the simple fact that you "nay-say" the teachings of the early church fathers, in itself is a characteristic of a false prophet(Jude 1:8 "...speak evil of dignities.")...is it not..mon ami? Now, why dont you understand the trinity? Either, I Corinthians 2:14, a demon spirit, or pride. You were probably tought this non-sence when you were a kid and are simply too pridful to consider the truth. It is amazing to me how many cultist will stay in denial just out of pride. When you finally say to God, not my will, but thine be done...thats when the truth will you like a ton of bricks. But you have to deny yourself before you can follow Jesus. Lastly, as far as the salvation of a modalist is concerned, thats not my job, but I can tell you that your skating on thin ice. The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost be with you, -Believer 50mmH.G.C. |