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NASB | Hebrews 6:4 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Hebrews 6:4 For [it is impossible to restore to repentance] those who have once been enlightened [spiritually] and who have tasted and consciously experienced the heavenly gift and have shared in the Holy Spirit, |
Subject: Joe, what is Paul and Hebrews 'the Law'? |
Bible Note: Bill: You wrote: "The key phrase here is not 'until heaven and earth pass away,' the key phrase is 'until all (of the Law) is accomplished.' And Christ did that." Please explain why Christ included the phrase. What does it mean, "until heaven and earth pass away" in the context of what he is saying? You also wrote: "True, God's moral requirements existed before the Mosaic Law. Why? Because they are a reflection of who He is." I wouldn't say that is WHY they exist, even though what you say is true. My question remains: if they did indeed exist apart from the covenant with Israel, why do you insist that those requirements no longer have any meaning for us (like the ceremonial and sacrificial Law of Moses)? It is precisely because the moral law of God existed prior to and beyong the Law of Moses that I hold that God never intended for us to toss out the moral commandments. I also noticed that you didn't comment on Abraham. I would be interested on your thoughts on what I wrote. You wrote: "Faith in Christ alone is what pleases God. Anything else is works." That does not hold up in the New Testament. Our faith enables us to please God. Our faith in Christ is the instrument of our justification. So now that I am a believer, works do not matter at all? I think there are about a dozen epistles that would challenge that view. If all that is required is a "works-less" faith, why does Paul criticize the licentiousness of the Corinthians? What do you make of James 2? God wants faith, but a true, saving faith produces works which are pleasing to God. They are also the mark of a true believer, and Paul tells us to expel those false brethren whose works do not demonstrate a saving faith. How is your faith demonstrated, Bill? Apart from works? Is that a saving faith or a dead one? If it is demonstrated in works, what works are those? The ones that reflect the moral commandments of God? Or something else? --Joe! |