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Subject: Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed |
Bible Note: StJohn, maybe my comment was not as clear as I thought. I was not contending against the proposition that Eve had transgressed. You did say she was not a sinner before the fall, therefore, I assume you believe she was created without a sinful nature or sinful propensities; that she was created either innocent or righteous. I was challenging your statement: "I don't think you can definitely say it was not in her nature to do so" (i.e. to sin). I contend that one can definitely say it was not in Eve's nature, as created, to sin: God saw his creation of Adam and Eve as good (not necessarily in moral terms but definitely not with any form of sin inherent in their natures). I argue it was in Eve's nature to choose, which included the choice to obey or disobey God's command; it was not in her nature to sin. There is a difference between being created to choose and being created to choose (especially in terms of necessity and inevitability) to sin. |