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Subject: Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed |
Bible Note: Azure, Given the text, it would seem to me that looking back to the written command of God to Adam in Genesis 2:16-17 and comparing it to what Eve said in Genesis 3:3 we assume that Eve has lied, misquoted, twisted the word etc, etc... I've even reasoned this myself in the past :-) But the text of Genesis 3:3 as I understand seems to prevent such reasoning based on the fact Eve said "God has said". I'm not seeing a harmony issue. I think perhaps it may appear that way because we compare the written account of God to Adam and the written account of Eve to the serpent. I don't deny the difference in what Eve has said. But considering all the text, are we not making assumptions of what Eve said by comparing the two passages? For me, I can't get past the words "God has said" and that she said this before the transgression. She did not say Adam had told her, she said "God has said". So, although I agree there is no written account of God speaking this, the written account is that "God has said" and it comes before the transgression as I understand the transgression is found in v3:6. If indeed she lied, then how do we account for the fallen nature before the transgression (v3:6)? :-) In regards to 1 Timothy 2:11-14 I'm not sure of your point or thoughts on this passage. However, in regards to what we are discussing, I think verse 14 is key. She "fell into transgression". If she was in error regarding what she said in Genesis 3:3 would that not then be the point in which she fell into transgression? Or is the proper understanding that she fell into transgression when "she took from its fruit and ate" (Genesis 3:6)? I've probably repeated myself in trying to explain my understand of this but hopefully you can see how I'm understanding it! Your thoughts? Steve |