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NASB | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain [on the earth] will simultaneously be caught up (raptured) together with them [the resurrected ones] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord! [John 14:3; 1 Cor 15:52; 2 Cor 5:8; Phil 1:23; Col 3:4] |
Subject: Rapture |
Bible Note: Vintage, I don't really see why we wouldn't be here if nothing needs to be accomplished. He certainly could be just waiting as He has done in His great mercy and loving patience so many times before, for the iniquity of sinners to be complete (Genesis 15:16). And I didn't say I believed that there is not a single event, though I may lean that way I'm really not sure about it, but I merely implied that there is that possibility. It sure would put a lot of debate to rest though! By the way, Vintage, though I don't mind too much, I still don't really like to get into a discussion about Eschatology because, as you also have pointed out, (and especially here on the forum) it just calls for too much speculation. :-) I do for the most part like your reasoning on this though, it make sense to me too. And not too complicated too. I don't think our Father intended it to be that hard. I like what old Dr. H. A. Ironside said, at least I think it was him who said: "Our loving Father don't put the cookies on the top shelf where his kids cant reach them." Or something like that. :-) Thanks! John |