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NASB | Colossians 3:9 Do not lie to one another, since you laid aside the old self with its evil practices, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Colossians 3:9 Do not lie to one another, for you have stripped off the old self with its evil practices, |
Subject: is it ok to lie in certain cases |
Bible Note: Greetings Bowler! You wrote: "The isssue is not whether or not God will deliver and trusting Him. The issue is that He does not always choose to as is shown by scripture to be true, and in cases such as those what would we have done?" Hypotheticals are tricky things, but let us assume the following scenario. The government has allowed Christianity. They are making examples of those that they find by killing them publicly. Soldiers come to my house and drag me and my entire family out into the front yard. They put guns to the heads of my entire family and loudly proclaim, 'Renounce Christ or we will shoot you and your family!' What should you do? Would lying be an option? I would trust God to protect me and my family. However, God decided not to deliver us from death, I would accept His Sovereign judgment and die. Our lives are His bowler, not ours! I have no right to sin to protect myself, or others, based on the notion that God might not deliver. 2) Sabbath You wrote: "The concept is not why we should condone sin, the concept is as Jesus was showing the Pharisees that their concept of law keeping was flawed and that they would seek to do that which was more right in a dire situation, that we may be called upon to do the same thing. Steve said something intereseting. He said that Jesus was showing the Pharisees that to save a life by exertion on the (paraphrasing) Sabbath was not breaking the law, it was right to do. Now technically they would have to break the Sabbath to save the life, but according to Jesus it is no longer wrong to do." You are missing the point of the passage my friend. Jesus was not saying that it was okay to sin to save a life. He was saying that they had misunderstood the purpose and nature of the Sabbath to begin with. The Sabbath was created for man, not man for the Sabbath. Saving a life on the Sabbath was not a violation of the Sabbath. 3) You wrote: "I think perhaps God has never placed you and some others in a situation where you did not have any options that were good and there was no time left to wait it out to see if God would deliver. Immediate death of someone else may not wait for you to hear or see from God, then what do you do?" Our faith and obedience are not conditioned upon getting what we want from God. If God choose to allow me or others to die, I would faithfully and joyfully accept His will. Nothing can happen apart from God's will. 4) Concerning David, God never says that sin is sin? I must have misread the Bible all of these years! ;-) Here is my thought my friend! We must obey and serve the Lord no matter what the cost! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |