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NASB | Ephesians 4:11 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 4:11 And [His gifts to the church were varied and] He Himself appointed some as apostles [special messengers, representatives], some as prophets [who speak a new message from God to the people], some as evangelists [who spread the good news of salvation], and some as pastors and teachers [to shepherd and guide and instruct], |
Subject: Are there any true prophets/prophetss' t |
Bible Note: Hi Tim, Thanks for your perspective on this. I wouldn't disagree as to what these scriptures say. I acknowledge that there are no scriptures which say that spiritual gifts have ceased- or in this case the office of prophet has been done away. However, what I contend is based upon the 2 following verses: 1 Cor 13:8 - Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. Cor 13:13- But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love. Does not vs. 8 state that "if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away"? If so, doesn't this impact and negate the gift/role of prophet? I think so. In vs. 13 there are only 3 remaining- faith, hope , and love. Absent are prophecy, tongues and knowledge! Why only these 3? If prophecy is still in efect, why does Paul not mention them? I believe there is some grammatical support on this too! Additionally, I find little- if anything- in the rest of the Pauline Epistles that argue for the continuation of this office (other than Eph. 4:11). This has served to convince me that the cessationist view certainly more than not, holds merit:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |