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NASB | Romans 8:29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:29 For those whom He foreknew [and loved and chose beforehand], He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son [and ultimately share in His complete sanctification], so that He would be the firstborn [the most beloved and honored] among many believers. |
Subject: Free will and predestination co-exist? |
Bible Note: Ztheberean, Welcome to the forum! I just want to throw my two cents in here. To begin with I will be forward in saying that I for one am offended at your remarks to Mark. Your reply to him borders on, if not actually being, judgmental. You actually insinuate, if not out-right declare, that Mark is unsaved. I don't know more about your background than your short profile proclaims, but Mark is well established on the forum as a serious student of the Scriptures. He confeses the same Christ you apparently do and therefore, he is your brother. A direct attack on his proclaimed faith in Christ is uncalled for. You say that if Mark is humbled by God's word he can find this truth that you proclaim in many places. I encourage you; if you are humbled by God's Holy Spirit, by His indescribable love, His mercy, and the grace by which He chose you and saved you, refrain from such un-Christ-like talk. An apology should be forethcoming. Sincerely, Jeff |