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NASB | Romans 8:29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:29 For those whom He foreknew [and loved and chose beforehand], He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son [and ultimately share in His complete sanctification], so that He would be the firstborn [the most beloved and honored] among many believers. |
Subject: Free will and predestination co-exist? |
Bible Note: Hi Edwin, That was an unexpected answer! I find you to be refreshingly challenging! I had in mind such verses as: Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to flesh, but according to Spirit. While we once were "by nature, children of wrath, even as the rest," (Eph 2:3), now that we are "in Christ", there is now no condemnation. There was a time before we were "in Christ", in which we were under God's righteous condemnation. 2Co 5:17 So that if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new! Once we were dead in trespasses and sins. Now we are alive, having been born again, born of God. If anyone is "in Christ", he is a new creation. If we were "in Christ" before the foundation of the world, then when was it that we were dead in our trespasses and sins? It seems to me that there was a time when we were dead in sins, before we were in Christ, then, when we became "in Christ", this involved re-birth, and we became a new creation. This is my understanding. What is your understanding of these verses? Love in Christ, Mark |