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NASB | Romans 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 10:17 So faith comes from hearing [what is told], and what is heard comes by the [preaching of the] message concerning Christ. |
Subject: Joe, is your reasoning not circular? |
Bible Note: Bill: You wrote: "But the last thing I would tell a new believer is to go pick a church, any church, and seek out a teacher in order for him to grow in the Lord." I never said ANY church. Why do you always think in extremes? If your pastor/minister teaches truth, why would you recommend a new convert not sit under his teaching? I can think of no better place for a new brother in Christ to be than sitting in the pew next to me, hearing about His new Lord and his glorious Savior and learning from more mature believers about our holy and awesome God. Not in ANY church, but in a GOOD one. I would think that the believer who led that individual to Christ also has teh responsibility of helping in the discipleship of the new convert. That was Paul's m.o. That does not REPLACE personal Bible study, but it does indeed reinforce it. And I hold that God in his sovereignty preserves His elect from complete apostasy. You wrote: "God does indeed have purpose in corporate functions but those things must never take the place of a personal one-on-one relationship with Jesus Christ as revealed through the Word and His Spirit in us." Again with the extremes! Show me one place where I said the corporate takes the place of individual study and prayer and worship. God has given us BOTH. BOTH! There should not be a rejection of either in favor of the other. God wants all believers learning both individually and corporately. --Joe! |