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NASB | John 8:41 "You are doing the deeds of your father." They said to Him, "We were not born of fornication; we have one Father: God." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 8:41 "You are doing the works of your [own] father." They said to Him, "We are not illegitimate children; we have one [spiritual] Father: God." |
Subject: Defending themselves or accusing Jesus? |
Bible Note: Tim Interesting information. I find this statement most interesting. "Kiddushin occurs when the woman accepts the money, contract or sexual relations offered by the prospective husband." This seems to suggest that sexual relations could be used to institute a betrothal. Yet every thing I have read up to this point suggests that, that would be a violation of many other Jewish laws and customs. Niddah law would be foremost violated followed by many more. Again I can believe it happened but it was in no way expected or condoned. The other point I find interesting is everything I read the betrothal was bartered by the parents on the behalf of the children. So I would think if premartial sex was involved it would be kept secret until after marriage to save face with eveyone involved. As far as how Judaism viewed the child of such premartial sex from what I read you are right only children of a forbidden marriage was considered illegitimate. If the father accepted the child there was no stigma placed on him or his conception. And I believe this fact answers the question of why the Pharisees did not pursue this with Jesus. Because Joseph accepted Jesus as his own, therfore Jesus by jewish law could not be considered illegitimate. |