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NASB | John 8:41 "You are doing the deeds of your father." They said to Him, "We were not born of fornication; we have one Father: God." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 8:41 "You are doing the works of your [own] father." They said to Him, "We are not illegitimate children; we have one [spiritual] Father: God." |
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Bible Note: Greetings Biblicalman! Well, it was a half confirmation. :-) That source certainly confirms that a child born out of wedlock did not have a stigma attached to them personally, unless the child was the result of what would be a prohibited marriage. But, the rest of the source certainly indicated that the betrothal was normally 12 months long, and sexual relations were not to take place until the wedding night. The point you made in another post about sexual relations resulting in marriage does not indicate acceptance, but protection of the woman. It is much like in the OT where if a man raped a virgin, he had to marry her. In summary, I think you are right about the stigma not being attached to the child, so John 8:41 probably is not a reference to Jesus. But, I do believe that sexual relations were not supposed to be a part of the betrothal period, which used to be 12 months. In modern times, this period does not really exist anymore. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |