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NASB | John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 1:1 In the beginning [before all time] was the Word (Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself. [Gen 1:1; Is 9:6] |
Subject: is jesus god? |
Bible Note: Lots of verses ;-) but the problem, it seems, is not with the lack of Biblical material on the doctrine of the Trinity but rather with a) correct interpretation of the Bible and b) belief in what has been correctly interpreted. The former is relatively easy to do, any soundly thinking human being can correctly interpret most of the Biblical material but to believe that material requires new birth, regeneration by the Holy Spirit. I'm going to offer two more verses here which I didn't see were used in this discussion and as a matter of fact for some rather strange reason are not often used when the Trinity is being discussed. The 1st one is from Acts 20:28: Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. Indeed, what an excellent verse! In it we are told that God had purchased his church with his own blood and since it was no one else who died on the cross to purchase his church but Christ, it follows then that Christ is God. The next one is still from John 1 but it's not John 1:1. There been lots of material written about John 1:1 on both sides of Trinitarian debate but, in my opinion, John 1:1 does not refute anti-Trinitarians beyond all doubt, what refutes them is John 1:3- All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Most anti-Trinitarians assert that there was a time when Christ was not (Arians and their off shoots assert that) and they go into lengthy (and mostly fallacious) arguments to prove their position when all the while they in their blindness overlook John 1:3 where it is plainly stated that ANYTHING that was made was made by Christ. If Christ, as they assert, was 'made' (created) then it follows, does it not, that Christ created himself. Absurd. Since, therefore, John 1:3 teaches that EVERYTHING that was made was made by Christ, it follows that Christ WAS before ANYTHING was made and therefore he is at least eternal, he always was. When this is established, a quick look through the OT shows that no one is eternal but God alone or conversely, whoever is eternal (non-created) is God. |