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NASB | Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life [in the sense of indifference to or relative disregard for them in comparison with his attitude toward God]--he cannot be My disciple. |
Subject: Did Jesus teach hate? |
Bible Note: Brother Tim: Do you think that this Seeker is an unsaved person whom the Lord has led here so we can lead him to Christ? I am not sure. Statements such as "as Christians profess", above, suggest to me that this person is not saved. I assume he is here because he has some interest in becoming a Christian. However, I am not sure. I notice that he ignored the post where I broached the subject. Now, if he is not saved, and he is not interested in getting saved, what is the point of debating with him? I do believe that he needs to trust Christ. When he has learned to trust Christ for his salvation I believe it will be relatively easy for him to find answers to these other questions. I could be wrong. It could be that he needs these answers in order to realize that he can trust the Lord. I am praying that the Lord will guide this conversation. If this man is sincerely seeking the Lord I know he will find him, if not here then elsewhere. If I am not able to take further part in this debate, or if I tarry long, you know how you ought to behave yourself in this part of the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world. This seeker of truth can find the truth, maybe here. Would it not be fine if we can welcome him soon as a brother? God says, “You shall seek me, and find me, when you shall search for me with all your heart”. |