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621 | John:30-33 Manna | Josh 16:1 | gracefull | 67069 | ||
Thank you Ray, I agree with your interpretation of John 30. It is indeed Jesus revealing his diety. I figured you did not mean the statemnet you made thus wanted to bring it to your attention. I agree that the peole 'knew' manna came frm heaven. But I believe their carnal thinking was suerior or predominant over their theological knowledge. Israel (as all of us tend to do) had a history of looking to men. For instance 1 Samual 8:4-7 Then all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah. And said to him,"You are old and your sons do not follow your ways; apoint for us then a king to govern us. Vs 7 And the Lord said to Samuel, "Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected me from being king over them.Just as they have done to me, from the day I brought them up out of Egypt to this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so also they are doing to you." Jesus revealed the desire of their hearts, food, and then is informing them that he has something much more important to offer, himself. The teaching of Jesus as God come down from heaven as manna to feed them eternal life is the essence. I just like to look not only at the teaching but at who Jesus is teaching. God bless. |
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622 | John:30-33 Manna | Josh 16:1 | gracefull | 66973 | ||
Hi Ray, that was my point but you did a much better job of giving the other scriptures. But what are you saying here? "Moses gave them manna to eat," Verse 32 of John 'Then Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly I say to you, Moses did not give you bread from heaven, but My Father gives you the true bread from heaven."' It seems to me Jesus is correcting their thinking in giving Moses credit for the bread as opposed to realizing it came from the Father. Is that what you see? Thanks, |
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623 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | gracefull | 66912 | ||
Hi teacher, as I said, I have no leading to join this discussion. I was just wondering how you could come to your conclusion. You answered my question. Thanks |
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624 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | gracefull | 66835 | ||
I have not been involved in this discussion but you raised a point I must question. You said that although Cornelius household was baptized with the Holy Spirit the scripture does not say they were saved. I s that a correct assessment of your statement? Do you believe the Holy Spirit (the third person of the Godhead) would take up His abode in an unclean temple? There are many scriptures to refute this. I hope someone with more time than I have will take up this challenge. Let's look at Pentecost.. Were the disciples in the upper room born again? Or were the born again at the time of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit? Does the scripture say they were 'saved' or 'born again' or just that the Holy spirit fell on them? |
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625 | Operate on faith or endure? | Heb 11:1 | gracefull | 66828 | ||
I wish I could answer your question.. but all I can say is that I studied under Kenneth Copeland for years and this is what I learned through listening to his teaching, studying the word prayerfully. Most of the other WOF teachers I have listened to but not 'studied with' so to speak. Maybe as we share together more here we can figure this out. Now maybe you see why those statements were so confusing to me. We can dialogue more and purhaps bridge a gap. Thank you for your encouraging words. Your sister in Christ |
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626 | true saving faith | Heb 11:1 | gracefull | 66820 | ||
Considering your statement "Faith is not believing in spite of the evidence..." how do these scriptures fit that definition? Let's consider this. Roman's 4:18-20 (paraphrased) Abraham hoped against hope according to the word "so shall thy seed be" being not weak in faith considered not his own body nor the deadness of Sarah's womb: he staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith. I definitely agree with obedience despite the consequences because we do not always look at God's desired conclusion. Paul went Jerusalem KNOWING he would be inprisoned and sent to Rome, but he did not care for his personal well being but desired the purpose of God. Hope turns to faith when we HEAR the promise from God's Word by His Spirit. Faith produces or births the conclusion. Abraham desired or hoped for a child, God promised him a child, Abraham refused to consider the natural impossibility and expected the supernatural possibility by believing Him faithful who promised. hope---to--faith---to---receiving the object of faith. In Abraham's case Issac. I do agree that faith often must act..such as we hear the gospel, receive it in our heart as truth then act by repentence and confession. Faith does require a corresponding action, or submission of will. |
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627 | true saving faith | Heb 11:1 | gracefull | 66819 | ||
Considering your statement "Faith is not believing in spite of the evidence..." how do these scriptures fit that definition? Roman's 4:18-20 (paraphrased) Abraham being not weak in faith considered not his own body nor the deadness of Sarah's womb: he staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith. I definitely agree with obedience despite the consequences because we do not always look at God's desired conclusion. Paul went Jerusalem KNOWING he would be inprisoned and sent to Rome, but he did not care for his personal well being but desired the purpose of God. Hope turns to faith when we HEAR the promise from God's Word by His Spirit. Faith produces or births the conclusion. Abraham desired or hoped for a child, God promised him a child, Abraham refused to consider the natural impossibility and expected the supernatural possibility by believing Him faithful who promised. hope---to--faith---to---receiving the object of faith. In Abraham's case Issac. |
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628 | "God said"? ...The VERBAL voice of God? | Ex 20:19 | gracefull | 66800 | ||
GREAT IS OUR GOD AND WORTHY OF ALL PRAISE!!! I feel very humble to be in His kingdom! God bless brother, |
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629 | "God said"? ...The VERBAL voice of God? | Ex 20:19 | gracefull | 66795 | ||
I see, well Paul heard a verbal voice of Jesus on the road to Damascus. We know this because the Bible tells us that those with him heard but it sounded like thunder to them? If God did what this man said God 'said' I would probably believe him. It is very good that you examine what you hear. So many take whatever people say as gospel, but God wants us to check everything by scripture AND the Holy Spirit. But God ideally wants us to walk by faith through a Spirit led life so this would be rare. In Jesus |
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630 | "God said"? ...The VERBAL voice of God? | Ex 20:19 | gracefull | 66789 | ||
Good question.. Many believers become upset when someone says "God spoke to me.." because they believe God speaks..but that He has given His word and we are to consider that only as His voice. The falacy here is that Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to 'teach' or reveal (turn the light on) the Word. The carnal mind cannot comprehend the things of God but they must be revealed by His Spirit 1. Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. John 4:23-24 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship Him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Matthew 15:18-19 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart: and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. Sin does not originate in the mind, but in the heart. 2 Corinthians 10:4-6 paraphrased Our weapos are not carnal...casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God bringing every THOUGHT into captivity.. Romans 8 5-8 To be carnally minded, set our mind on things of the flesh is death, but to be spiritually minded is to set our mind on the things of the Spirit.. It is my understanding that we are spirit, soul and body (triune beings) and that the soul is made up of the mind, will and emotions. Our mind was given to process information similar to a computer, junk in-junk out, and has to be reprogramed with God's Word (be transformed by renewing your mind to the Word). But the COMMUNICATION between us and God is in the connection of God's Spirit with our spirit. The spirit led person is one who listens with the spirit to the Holy spirit, confirms the voice with the Word (they will always agree) and acts on the Spirit's leading. The difficulty comes when the mind is not renewed enough and wars with the Spirit based on it's carnal wisdom. The more time spent in quiet fellowship listening for the voice of God in Spirit and truth (God's word is truth). Our changed mind does not necessarily mean a changed heart. Hope this helps In Jesus |
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631 | Of course I'm bitter! You would be too. | 1 Cor 7:5 | gracefull | 66668 | ||
As cyclist said..believers can only give the word as counsel and it is the best counsel if heeded. If your wife were here asking this same question, we would do the same for her. She is not asking, noone can offer guidance to her. You said you have tried, but maybe you should just focus your relationship on God in prayer and allow Him to do the work. It is your relationship with Him that matters most. The joy of the Lord is our strength. 1. The spirit of the law is love..For God so loved the world...In that while we were still sinners Christ died for us...husbands, love your wives.. sacrificial love of brothers and sisters who interceed for you and your wife...God's love through us fulfills the law... 2. There is great blessing in walking in love Psalm 15 Lord, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill? He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaks truth in his heart. He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbor. In whose eyes a vile person is contemned: but he honourth them that fear the LORD. He that SWEARETH TO HIS OWN HURT AND CHANGETH NOT. He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. HE THAT DOETH THESE THINGS SHALL NEVER BE MOVED. 3. 1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such is common to man: but God WHO IS FAITHFUL, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will WITH THE TEMPTATION ALSO MAKE A WAY OF ESCAPE, that ye may be able to bear it. My brother, your wife will have to give an account for her actions, but as you odviously know so will you. God is merciful and has made a way of escape and has promised by the Psalm that He will comfort you through your faithfulness to your committment. MPA no one here believes your situation is easy, and no one here believes you are totally responsible. It is just useless and even unGodly for any of us to discuss your wife without her presence. It will seem unfair when you are carnal in your thinking, but in the spirit we cease to be self concerned. You have grown weary with well doing. You only have two choices..walk in the flesh or walk in the spirit. As a born again believer you do have the choice. God can provide the comfort you need to remain faithful and joyful. In my prayers dear brother! |
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632 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 66558 | ||
Justme... I respectfully disagree... IN Jesus |
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633 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 66557 | ||
Justme... I speak what I believe and do offer scripture..You do not agree..As long as your 'rebuttals' are scriptural and you recoginze everyone's right to study for themselves, which is not what you demonstrated in any of your posts to me. I am sure some wise seekers will recognize that we are all mere humans offering our insight and that truth is 'revealed'. In Jesus |
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634 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 66555 | ||
Hi Tim, That is okey.. There is room here for a difference of opinion or belief. I believe verse 23 saying the these (earthly) were a 'type' of things in Heaven. I interpret this to mean the things in the Temple were patterned after things in Heaven, (though not made with hands). I do not over spiritualize Heaven, based on the fact that Jesus had a Spiritual body that could eat physical food and enter and exit a room at will. I believe it is a real place and that the Old Testament process was a pattern set for Christ the Messiah to follow. He came as a lamb..was killed (shed innocent blood)and when He ascended he placed himself on the alter and the Father declared him the holy and final sacrifice. God bless! |
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635 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 66552 | ||
Joe.. I suppose it is so important to my theology because it is what I believe I see in the Word. You made a statement and I disagree.. a good Bible study should make available all perspectives and understandings, then work toward truth as revealed by the Holy Spirit as best we can. One that is 'controlled' will become like the dead sea. No inlet or outlet, only people talking who agree..everyone else will leave. |
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636 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 66547 | ||
This post was on Nov.2nd...I have moved on.... No I do not intend to 'change' anyone, only the Holy Spirit and the Word can work that miracle. I gathered this site was for seeking and sharing insight. Please reread my first post and then read yours...But of course, you probably won't recgonize I was offering a seeker a site to read apologetics on the subject she was asking about, you offered accusations and name calling.. who needs to move on here? |
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637 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 66546 | ||
This post was on Nov.2nd...I have moved on.... No I do not intend to 'change' anyone, only the Holy Spirit and the Word can work that miracle. I gathered this site was for seeking and sharing insight. Please reread my first post and then read yours...But of course, you probably won't recgonize I was offering a seeker a site to read apologetics on the subject she was asking about, you offered accusations and name calling.. who needs to move on here? |
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638 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 66221 | ||
Thanks you Tim for your response, but you did not answer the main question. According to Hebrews 9:23-24 ...but the heavenly things themselves There is quite a strong indication that He ascended here when He said He was going to. Again, why else would he send Mary with the message? And if not then, When? In Jesus |
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639 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 66212 | ||
Hi Tim.. So if we stay true to the Old Testament pattern we know Jesus had to have ascended placing His blood on the alter in the heavenly Holy of Holies, and if the Old Covenant was the symbolic pattern we can safely say Jesus had to do likewise...When do you believe this took place? After the forty days? Please read my post to Meredith concerning the Greek word for touch and coment. Your sister in Christ Your sister in Christ |
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640 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 66205 | ||
Hi Joe, It does appear that Jesus ascended because He told Mary, go tell the disciples I go to heaven.. then later he appeared unto them. Why would He have sent her to tell them this if He was not going? Also Hebrew 9:6-9 Now when these things had been thus prepared, the priests always went into the first part of the tabernacle, performing the services. But into the second part the high priest went alone once a year, not without blood, which he offered for himself and for the people's sins committed in ignorance: the Holy Spirit indicating this, that the way into the Holiest of All was not yet manifest while the first tabernacle was still standing...vs 11-12 But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is not of this creation. Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. vs23 Therefore it was necessary that the copies of the things in heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us... It seems to me that there is a heavenly Holy of Holies where Jesus took his blood as an offering once for all, and that the earthly holy of holies was made after the pattern of the heavenly Holy of Holies, where God is and where we go boldly to find mercy and help in the time of need... Your sister in Jesus |
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