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41 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 72807 | ||
Aften1, You said, "The bottom line is that Christianity has missed the identification of the Trinity. The Father, The Son , The Holy Ghost. Father, God Almighty, and the Son of God. Father, Immanuel and Jesus." Your church is missing it by not recognizing the basic truth that Jesus is the Immanuel of Is 7:14. Who else besides Jesus Christ could possibly have been born of a virgin? Also the Holy Spirit is a person, not mearly a "power": Mark 3:29 but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation"-- Luke 12:10 "And anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven. Why would Jesus say that concerning some unconcious "spirit power"? Did you believe the Watchtower when it predicted Jesus' return several times over the last 30 years. The last time was supposed to be 2001, but they were wrong again. Now, they suddenly have found the "code" of Revelation? Wake up Aften1: Deuteronomy 18 22when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. Based on your core beliefs, I assume your "Great Church" to be Jahovah's Witnesses. Maybe I am wrong about that, but since you have not denied it, I think that I am right that you are of the JWs. If Jesus was Gabriel or Michael the Archangel, then He could not have the power to forgive sins or rise from the dead or be the Lamb without spot or blemish: Matthew 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house. John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Pastor Glenn |
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42 | What other Immanuel was born of a virgin | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 72846 | ||
Aften1, You said, "Did Jesus say he was God or not? I am still waiting." Jesus is God: Jesus said, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. ": Mat 28 16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted. 18And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19Go therefore[3] and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, John 8 19Then they said to Him, "Where is Your Father?" Jesus answered, "You know neither Me nor My Father. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also." John 14 9Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, "Show us the Father'? 10Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves. God said, "I will not give My glory to another. ": Is 48 11For My own sake, for My own sake, I will do it; For how should My name be profaned? And I will not give My glory to another. Yet He Glorifies Christ: John 17 1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should[1] give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. Pastor Glenn |
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43 | What do you mean | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 82316 | ||
OK, I was referring to the fact that salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ alone: Eph 2 8For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not of works, lest anyone should boast. |
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44 | How to use scripture, prove them wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 82478 | ||
Galatians 6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. 2 Thessalonians 3:13 But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing. |
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45 | Does anyone have a good way to explain t | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 87526 | ||
Greetings Truthfinder, You said: "Since the Bible can ‘set things straight,’ it should clearly reveal information about a matter ..." Jehovah's Witnesses have taught that Jesus was the angel Michael, and set dates for Jesus' return several times that did not come to pass. Weren't the 144000 supposed to be only white people? The bible "clearly" speaks of 12 tribes of Israel. Jews only. The bible "clearly" says that if a prophet is wrong in his prophecy then to not fear him. Has the Watchtower society ever taken back any false claims? Have they given the names of the false prophets that also claim there is no hell fire or predict false dates? They continue to make attempts against the deity of Christ. But yet they are known to be false prophets. The same writers that deny the Son and make false prophecies are writing more revisions of the NWT bible. No one else uses that mistranslation. Why continue following them? They continue to write Christ's deity out of Hebrews chapter one, as well as, many other scriptures. They believe they are the only ones saved, but have no history beyond the last century. Christ's Appostles were not white, they were jews. "Since the Bible can ‘set things straight,’ it should clearly reveal information about a matter ..." Which bible??? Pastor Glenn 1. This post is biblically based and whenever possible, I have included Bible references to support it. 2. This post is not intended as a personal attack on the authority of the Bible or on other users of this forum. 3. This post is not submitted as an effort to foster divisiveness, ill-will, dissension or other disruptions to this forum. 4. I have carefully proofread my post and believe it represents my best efforts. |
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46 | Does anyone have a good way to explain t | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 87556 | ||
Amen Hank. Pastor Glenn |
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47 | Does anyone have a good way to explain t | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 87751 | ||
Truthfinder, Jesus Christ cannot be compared to angels or Satan when referring to "a god". Jesus has the power to: A. forgive sins, Matthew 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house. B. to rise from the dead, John 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. C. to accept our worship, John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God. Mat 28:9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. D. hold all power of heaven and earth, Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. E. created all things, John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. F. and to truly be "God with us". Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. Also, the Holy Spirit is God. How can you blasphemy a "spirit power" as the NWT tries to make Him out to be inanimate? “Spirit power” sounds far too much like the inanimate “force” of Star Wars. Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Speaking of the Muslims, they also have no true history beyond Mohammed. They no nothing of the true nature of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Israel). If they understood the Trinity, then maybe they would also understand that salvation is of the Jews: John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. The Jews did not understand the Trinity, but they still recorded “let Us make man …”: Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. The Trinity is one God, consisting of 3 Persons that are eternally distinct: Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. John 1:32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. Pastor Glenn |
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48 | Does anyone have a good way to explain t | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 88005 | ||
TheCurtMan, This is a difficult question. However, examine this scripture and notice the ups and downs that Paul and Barnabas faced before finally being expelled. It was then that they shook the dust off their feet: Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Act 13:40 Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets; Act 13:41 Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you. Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God. Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. Act 13:45 But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming. Act 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. Act 13:47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. Act 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Act 13:49 And the word of the Lord was published throughout all the region. Act 13:50 But the Jews stirred up the devout and honourable women, and the chief men of the city, and raised persecution against Paul and Barnabas, and expelled them out of their coasts. Act 13:51 But they shook off the dust of their feet against them, and came unto Iconium. Act 13:52 And the disciples were filled with joy, and with the Holy Ghost. Also, remember that longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit. As for the tares, Jesus said for us to let the wheat and tares grow together: Mat 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. Mat 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. Mat 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? Mat 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? Mat 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. I do feel that the tares are those that are "the natural man". The best thing for us is to learn to hear the voice of God through the Holy Spirit as He leads us. Pastor Glenn |
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49 | Does anyone have a good way to explain t | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 88161 | ||
Truthfinder, Even "if" the word "created" were accepted instead of "possesed", this implies the God had no wisdom at some point before creating it. God has not changed. 22"The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old. 23I have been established from everlasting, From the beginning, before there was ever an earth. 24When there were no depths I was brought forth, When there were no fountains abounding with water. 25Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills, I was brought forth; 26While as yet He had not made the earth or the fields, Or the primal dust of the world. 27When He prepared the heavens, I was there, When He drew a circle on the face of the deep, 28When He established the clouds above, When He strengthened the fountains of the deep, 29When He assigned to the sea its limit, So that the waters would not transgress His command, When He marked out the foundations of the earth, 30Then I was beside Him as a master craftsman;[2] And I was daily His delight, Rejoicing always before Him, 31Rejoicing in His inhabited world, And my delight was with the sons of men. You said: "But scholars acknowledge that the context here points to the rendering “produced” or “created,” since verses 24 and 25 speak of Wisdom as being “brought forth as with labor pains.”" 25Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills, I was brought forth; "brought forth" is as in brought to the front. God used His "wisdom" and "understanding": Proverbs 3:19 The LORD by wisdom founded the earth; By understanding He established the heavens; Are you next going to tell us that "understanding" was also a created being? Or what about "knowledge", who is he??? Pastor Glenn |
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50 | Does anyone have a good way to explain t | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 88231 | ||
Truthfinder, The scriptures that you give show the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ. Rev 3 14 "And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans[6] write, "These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God: We see this as referring to Jesus, after His ressurection, as the firstborn of a new spiritual order of beings. He is the second Adam in the sence that all that have faith in Him can become part of God's family. Col 1 15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence. Can't you see why He must be God? Not merely "a god"? All scripture pointed to Him to save all that accept Him throughout time. Abraham saw Him. Job saw Him. Jacob wrestled with Him. The mercy seat in the Ark of the covenant represented Him. No one can stand in for God like that. He must "be" God. John 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. 18No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son,[6] who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. 1 Cor 8 5For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), 6yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live. Jesus Christ is not just a "junior partner" to God. A junior partner could not be allowed to stand in for salvation of all men for all time. Truthfinder, throw that NWT away and read Hebrews 11-12 again. Read John chapter 1 again and Hebrews chapter 1 again. A junior partner would have had to say "and I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto the father". But instead He said: Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. Only God can say that. Pastor Glenn |
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51 | Does anyone have a good way to explain t | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 88403 | ||
Truthfinder, “.......The scriptures that you give show the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ........ When you say "deity" of the Lord Jesus Christ do you mean Jesus is a mighty spirit being that has been given all authority in the universe and was maker of both the angels in heaven and material universe eons of time ago? Well certainly, I totally agree. “ No, He was not “given” all authority, He already had it throughout eternity. He was not created. You confuse scripture that refers to His incarnation or resurrection with His pre-incarnate existence. The Word laid aside His power for the incarnation. “But if you mean that our Lord Jesus is the God that Jesus told Satan at Mat. 4:10 you must render sacred service that I will have to agree with Jesus and not you. “ 10Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you,[4] Satan! For it is written, "You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve."'[Deuteronomy 6:13 You shall fear the LORD your God and serve Him, and shall take oaths in His name. ] “Yes, the deity of Christ must be relative, otherwise the ransom sacrifice is nullified, Jesus really is not God's "only-begotten son", and each time Jesus called his Father "God" was meaningless. Can you imagine the Father ever saying, "My God" in reference to his son? I can't and don't think any reasonable person would. “ Mark 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Spirit: "The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."'[12:36 Psalm 110:1] “…But if he had been Almighty God himself then where is the love of offering himself on behalf of mankind. No he offered his beloved "son" as a ransom for "all". “ “No greater dishonor can be done to our heavenly Father than to take his beloved name out of his Holy Book as most "modern" translations have done so as to mislead its readers to believing that He and His Son are one and the same. Don't you get it? That was the reason Jehovah was originally in his Holy Word. If he didn't want it in there why did he put it there 7,000 times. No one on this forum has answered that question since I periodically ask it over the past 6 months. Why do so many people who call themselves "Christian" even dispise God's name Jehovah? Many even say that Jehovah isn't his name because we don't know how it was pronounced in Hebrew! What a copout. They readily use all the other names in their English for, including Jesus! So, you see Pastor Glenn, I believe the Word of God and I believe it when it says Jehovah is the Almighty God and his Son is not Almighty God but indeed his Son. Truthfinder” OK Truthfinder, I’ll accept “Jehovah” as God’s name. Let’s also keep the NWT. I believe in the Trinity because the Bible teaches the doctrine. It does so not by using the specific word "Trinity," but by teaching the three pillars that make up the doctrine: First, that there is only one true God, Jehovah, Creator of all things. Surely you agree with me there. Next, that there are three divine Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I realize you do not believe the Holy Spirit is a person, but you do agree that the Father and the Son are not the same person, correct? Finally, the third pillar, the point on which we are in direct disagreement, is the Bible’s teaching of the full equality of these divine persons. This would include the deity of Christ and the personality of the Holy Spirit. It is important not to misunderstand me. We are not asserting that there are three “persons” that are one person, nor that there are three “beings” that are one being. We are differentiating between the terms “being” and “person“. All things have being, but only God, humans, and angels are personal. I as a human being am one person, Eugene Glenn. My “being” makes me human, my personality differentiates me from all other human beings. Since my “being” is finite and limited, only one “person” can properly subsist in it, namely, me. But since God’s “being” is infinite and unlimited, it can be, and is, shared by three persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Can I illustrate this from Scripture? Since you believe the Trinity is a false doctrine derived from Greek philosophy, you probably feel that I won’t be able to support my position using the bible. (continued on next post...) Pastor Glenn |
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52 | Does anyone have a good way to explain t | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 88404 | ||
Truthfinder, Part 2... You and I both agree that the only true God is Jehovah. I believe the term ‘Jehovah’ refers to the very divine being, the eternal God, who created all things. You would agree with me that the Father is Jehovah, would you not? Where we disagree is this: I believe the Bible says that Jesus Christ is Jehovah, and the Spirit is also Jehovah. Each of the three persons shares the one divine name, Jehovah. May I show you one of the places where the Bible teaches us that Jesus IS “Jehovah“? I note some of the important verses in passing, such as Hebrews 1:3, which speaks of Christ as the "exact representation of his nature." Heb 1 (NKJV) 3who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5 For to which of the angels did He ever say: "You are My Son, Today I have begotten You"? [Psalm 2:7] And again: "I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son"? [Psalm 2:7] 6But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: "Let all the angels of God worship Him." [Deuteronomy 32:43 (Septuagint, Dead Sea Scrolls); Psalm 97:7 ] 7And of the angels He says: "Who makes His angels spirits And His ministers a flame of fire." [Psalm 104:4] 8But to the Son He says: "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. Truthfinder, I now ask, who is being discussed all through this passage? The answer is plainly the Son. 9You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions." [Psalm 45:6, 7] The citation that begins in verse 8 finishes in verse 9, following which says, "And: ‘You at [the] beginning, O Lord, laid the foundations of the earth itself, and the heavens are [the] works of your hands.’" 10And: "You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands. 11They will perish, but You remain; And they will all grow old like a garment; 12Like a cloak You will fold them up, And they will be changed. But You are the same, And Your years will not fail." [Psalm 102:25-27] 13But to which of the angels has He ever said: "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool"? [Psalm 110:1] Now, who is being described here? The only possible answer is "the Son." Say whatever you wish, as long as we agree on the fact that Hebrews 1:10-12 is still making reference to the Son. The passage being cited, according to the cross references is Psalm 102:25-27. Begin at verse 1 of Psalm 102 and identify the individual being addressed in the passage. The scripture begins, "O Jehovah, do hear my prayer." Skip down to verse 12 and notice that Jehovah remains the subject of the psalm. Point out that Jehovah continues to appear in verses 19 and 20 . This is important because once you get to verse 25 the significance of the words will be manifest. Jehovah is addressed in the very same words that the writer to the Hebrews uses of the Son, Jesus Christ! I want to make it clear that there is no reason to think that anyone other than Jehovah is being addressed by the psalmist in Psalm 102:25-27. The New Testament writers took an Old Testament passage originally about Jehovah Himself and applied it to the Lord Jesus Christ. This passage is exceptionally strong, for the psalmist is speaking of the immutability, eternal nature, and creative power of Jehovah God, yet the writer to the Hebrews is willing to predicate all these things of Jesus Christ. Pastor Glenn |
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53 | Does anyone have a good way to explain t | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 88477 | ||
Greetings Truthfinder, You said: "I have several other Bible translations of which I am reading the verses you quote, in particular Hebrews 1:8. And you know what? Different thoughts are expressed, depending on the Bible version. And you are correct in all that you say in your post concerning Hebrews 1:8 being a quotation of Psalm 45:6 and I certainly see why you conclude that Jesus would be one and the same as Jehovah." I am glad we found some common ground to focus on. " Again, I say this because of the way the translations, versions render these passages. Due to the fact that there are at least two renderings and two ideas conveyed, one at least, is wrong. Both could be wrong but at least one is wrong. If you have a leaning toward accepting the trinity doctrine which rendering will you support? Likewise, if you feel the Bible does not teach the trinity then which rendering would you support? The answer is obvious. Perhaps you were not aware of this. This is the key that I mention again and again. In posts past, I have shown and explained many verses that had been mis-translated and some that have been changed, and some that have been added to support the trinity. This is all unacceptable. This is totally heretical. I am sure you are disagreeing with me now because you feel the trinity is "holy" and indeed taught by God through his Word the Bible." This is why it is better to set trinity discussion aside for now as we determine the question of Jesus being Jehovah. This is the key. Since it is your favorite version, I want to know what the NWT has to say in Psalm 102. "Again please answer for me this question; How do you feel about all this? Do you feel it wrong to remove say just one word from the Bible or to just change a word to something else?" Yes, it is wrong to change the scripture. But, this is a brick wall to say which side is changing it. "An in depth study of Hebrews 1:8, shows first that it is addressed to the Son of God, but can be rendered either, “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever,” or, “God is thy throne for ever and ever,” since there is no verb “is” in either the Greek or in the Hebrew at Psalm 45:6, from which this is a quotation. In keeping with its principles to honor God and remain consistent with the rest of the Scriptures, the New World Translation here reads: “God is your throne forever.” " I would like to know whether you see the NWT is consistant in translating to “God is your throne forever.” in both places: Psalm 45:6, as well as, Hebrew 1:8. What does it say? The same with Psalm 102:25-27 compared to Heb 1:10-12? Pastor Glenn |
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54 | Does anyone have a good way to explain t | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 88545 | ||
Truthfinder, I like your conclusion: "And Heb. 1:8-12 reads, NWT, ” 8 But with reference to the Son: “God is your throne forever And Psalm 102:25 reads, NWT, 25 Long ago you laid the foundations of the earth itself, And the heavens are the work of your hands. Here the psalmist was talking about Jehovah God, but the apostle Paul applied these words to Jesus Christ as you say in Hebrews 1:10, 11 As it turns out, these words apply to Jesus, for he acted as Jehovah’s Agent in creating the universe just as Colossians 1:15, 16 tells us. So Jesus, too, could be said to have “laid the foundations of the earth.” Yes, all three were involved in creating the universe and man. (Let us..), God’s active force or holy, God’s Son and he himself. Truthfinder" I wanted to point out that since it is impossible to come to the Father without Christ, Jesus is far more than just an agent. A client can bypass his agent if he so desires. But Christ cannot be bypassed: Acts 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved." John 14 6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you really knew me, you would know[2] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." 8Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us." 9Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. 12I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. 14You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it. (NKJV) Also, since Jesus is our creator, He is Jehovah. Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. Nehemiah 9:6 You alone are the LORD . You made the heavens, even the highest heavens, and all their starry host, the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them. You give life to everything, and the multitudes of heaven worship you. Psalm 69:34 Let heaven and earth praise him, the seas and all that move in them, Psalm 146:6 the Maker of heaven and earth, the sea, and everything in them- the LORD , who remains faithful forever. Acts 4:24 When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to God. "Sovereign Lord," they said, "you made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and everything in them. Acts 14:15 "Men, why are you doing this? We too are only men, human like you. We are bringing you good news, telling you to turn from these worthless things to the living God, who made heaven and earth and sea and everything in them. Revelation 5:13 Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!" Revelation 10:6 And he swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said, "There will be no more delay! Revelation 14:7 He said in a loud voice, "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water." Pastor Glenn |
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55 | Does anyone have a good way to explain t | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 88546 | ||
Truthfinder, Please notice other scriptures also: Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. [ 6:4 Or [ The ] LORD [ our God is one ] LORD ; or The LORD is our God, the LORD is one ; or The LORD is our God, the LORD alone ] Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD, that is My name; And My glory I will not give to another, Nor My praise to carved images. Isaiah 48:11 For My own sake, for My own sake, I will do it; For how should My name be profaned? And I will not give My glory to another. John 17 1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should[1] give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. How do you reconcile these scriptures, even in the NWT, I am sure that Jehovah glorifies the Son (John 17:1-5) after saying in Is 42:8 and 48:11 that He would no give His Glory to another? This is why we believe that Jesus is Jehovah. Pastor Glenn |
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56 | Is baptism a work? | NT general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 66332 | ||
cwade, After reading your personal profile, I pray that more of us on this forum will grow up to have the same prayers for this forum as you do. Your profile ouses with love and meekness. Some measure whether other christians' growth by how well others follow their doctrine, but the scriptures say to measure it by our level of love and the fruit that we bare. (I like pasting related scriptures directly into my posts, rather than counting on the readers to have time to look them up): 1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. This scripture is very humbling when we start to get lifted up in pride. We can often stray by thinking that our religion, denomination, or great biblical knowledge sets us above everyone else. But I like what Paul said: Philippians 3 3For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh, 4though I also might have confidence in the flesh. If anyone else thinks he may have confidence in the flesh, I more so: 5circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee; 6concerning zeal, persecuting the church; concerning the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. 7But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ. 8Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ 9and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; 10that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, 11if, by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from the dead. God Bless, Pastor Glenn |
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57 | What is the people sin? | NT general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 67361 | ||
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58 | What is the people sin? | NT general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 67949 | ||
No, God did not make mistakes! When you raise children and do all you can to teach them the right way to go, it may make you sorry you had them too. But it is not your fault that they sinned. God desires a rightious seed: Malachi 2:15 And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth. |
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59 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 142675 | ||
Hello Doc, I would like to add my 2 cents also. "I've scanned the book at Wal-Mart. I guess I might have had some bias against it right there. Books on theology sold at Wal-Mart are generally the first indication that you aren't looking at something terribly deep." You are right that this book is not terribly deep, but the bible is deep in many areas. We have used this book for bible study at our church. There really is no great problem when it is taught as prescribed. The same problems that we see in this book also mostly apply to "poor" bible study. The book is meant as a an aid to one particular bible subject; God's purpose for our lives as individuals. The bible is the only book that is meant to be studied prayerfully with the aid of the Holy Spirit to teach us God's meaning and God's understanding. That is why the fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge and wisdom. When the “scriptures” that Rick Warren cites (and there are many) are studied correctly, I see very little problems with this book. We need to always keep the focus on the scriptures when studying any book. If we teach correctly as Phillip did by the leading of the Holy Spirit for the Ethiopian Eunuch, then we can all help disciple others for Christ. Your brother in Christ, Pastor Glenn |
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60 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 142687 | ||
"This is encouraging, Pastor. I meant no disrespect to anyone who has read this book or has used it. I was just expressing my general observations and impressions -- though flawed and humble they may be!" Hello again Doc, I do not feel disrespected at all by your comments. As a matter of fact, my own dear mother also objected to us using this book or any other in bible study. She said, "These sixty-six books are all we need". She was right to a certain extent; we need to know how to teach the bible first and formost. So I made the same speech to her as I did to you in my last post. Let me tell you about my Mother Glenn. Well, my mother at 82 years young is forgetful and often forgets the names of her 9 children. So during bible study, every few minutes she would ask "What is this book? (The Purpose Driven Life)" or "What scripture are we studying?". So, I had to repeat my same speech about 5 times each week. However, even with her forgetfulness, she does not forget the scriptures and can more than hold her own in any bible study lesson. Whenever I should point out to her that the Lord has really blessed her memory when it comes to bible knowledge and understanding, she will then name all the books one by one and end with "... sixty-six books, thats all we need". So, she is right and you are right. If we don't know how to teach the bible "first", then no other books are going to help. Your brother in Christ, Pastor Glenn |
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