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161 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 65221 | ||
Yes EdB, That is indeed Word of Faith taken to an extreme where it is unbiblical. But how do we arrive at the right balance so that we are not always walking in the other extreme of always being in doubt like Thomas? Jesus Christ spoke against fear and doubt many times. Where did He ever speak against too much faith? It is truly not right to say "my tire is perfect" and expect God to honor your faith concerning the whether or not the tire is flat. But what if we say, instead, "Lord help", while trusting God to bring us through whatever dangers that that flat tire may pose to our safety? I am not defending "Word of Faith" in the way it teaches falsely that words are containers that give us power to change reality. However, I do believe that "words of faith in God" will bring us through, in whatever way He chooses, is biblical. It may be good to start a new thread at Mat 14:29. Pastor Glenn |
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162 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 65263 | ||
Amen EdB, That reminds me of what Christ said in response to Satan's temptation to jump from the pinnacle of the temple: Luke 4:9Then he brought Him to Jerusalem, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down from here. 10For it is written: "He shall give His angels charge over you, To keep you,' 11and, "In their hands they shall bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone."'[Psalm 91:11, 12] 12And Jesus answered and said to him, "It has been said, "You shall not tempt the LORD your God."'[Deuteronomy 6:16] Pastor Glenn |
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163 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 65268 | ||
justme, I respect your judgement on this matter, as well as, your wisdom and experience. But I do not fully respect his judgement since it does seem that Hank Hanegraaff inores Jesus' teaching: Mark 9:38 Now John answered Him, saying, "Teacher, we saw someone who does not follow us casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow us." 39But Jesus said, "Do not forbid him, for no one who works a miracle in My name can soon afterward speak evil of Me. 40For he who is not against us is on our[3] side. 41For whoever gives you a cup of water to drink in My name, because you belong to Christ, assuredly, I say to you, he will by no means lose his reward. If you can tell me that Hank deals with this scripture in his book, then I will buy it and read it. Otherwise, it is probably not a well balanced treatment of the subject of false ministries. God Bless, Pastor Glenn |
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164 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 65276 | ||
Yes gracefull, This is why I started a new thread at Mat 14:29. This subject does not go with Luke 23:46 here. God Bless, Pastor Glenn |
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165 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 65298 | ||
justme, I have posed the question of Mark 9:38-41, along with a different question, to CRI about 18 months ago. They responded to the other question but did not address my question of Mark 9:38-41. Can you tell me if you remember seeing a reference to it in his book? You said, "If some one is teaching the true Christ even with wrong motives, my understanding Jesus said leave then alone. However that is not the case of false Word of Faith teachers,..." That is a broad brush to say that they do not believe in the "true Christ". How does he back that statement up? You said, "If you can tell me one false statement I will NEVER mention Hanks name again on this forum. " Well, I have already heard him repeat a false statement over and over that may appear in his book. He says "Every heretical teaching begins with a misconception of the nature of God.". The key word here is "begins". A "misconception of the nature of God" is not a beginning of heresy, but rather, it is a symptom of not glorifying God: Rom 1: 19because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21because, although they knew God, THEY DID NOT GLORIFY HIM AS GOD, NOR WERE THANKFUL, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. The truth is that heresies begin with the refusal to “GLORIFY HIM AS GOD”. God is not impressed with bible knowledge: Luke 8:10 And He said, "To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that "Seeing they may not see, And hearing they may not understand.'[Isaiah 6:9] Isaiah 6: 10"Make the heart of this people dull, And their ears heavy, And shut their eyes; Lest they see with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, And return and be healed." John 3: 10Jesus answered and said to him, "Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? 11Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 12If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? Pastor Glenn |
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166 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 65319 | ||
Brother Moran, You said, "You seem to be reading Mark 9:38-41 as a treatment of how to deal with falst ministries. Yet, the passage nowhere says that these individuals were false, only that they were not of the twelve. The meaning of the passage is quite clear, that those who are not against us are with us. " No, I am not reading this scripture as a treatment of how to deal with false ministries. I am looking at it the way Christ meant for it to be used, that is to determine whether or not a ministry is false. So yes, the meaning of the passage is quite clear, that those who are not against us are with us. 2 John 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward. 9Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 10If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; 11for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds. Notice: 7"...who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh..." The point being made in this scripture has to do with the deity of Christ. All I am saying is that we need to deal with the heart of the issue. If WOF teachers all were to agree that it is wrong to impose their will "above God's will". And if they were all to say that words are not "containers" that give us magical powers. And if all other false teaching is rejected, is faith healing still allowed? Is faith in God to bring us through our problems allowed? Should we still have faith in God for anything else besides for salvation through Christ? Gracefull was saying that she did not "see" the false teachings that were being alledged. So why is this lynch mob gathered around. Pastor Glenn |
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167 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 65343 | ||
Hank, While God wants us to learn of Him, all of our wisdom and knowledge is always far shorter than His, so He is not impressed. Even the great CRI better make sure that they are not fighting God when they attack ministries: Acts 5:39 but if it is of God, you cannot overthrow it--lest you even be found to fight against God." Acts 23:9 Then there arose a loud outcry. And the scribes of the Pharisees' party arose and protested, saying, "We find no evil in this man; but if a spirit or an angel has spoken to him, let us not fight against God." Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in the Spirit and said, "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. Isaiah 55:8"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," says the LORD. 9"For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts. Psalm 2:2The kings of the earth set themselves, And the rulers take counsel together, Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying, 3"Let us break Their bonds in pieces And cast away Their cords from us." 4He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; The LORD shall hold them in derision. Psalm 59:8But You, O LORD, shall laugh at them; You shall have all the nations in derision. Pastor Glenn |
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168 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 65355 | ||
EdB, I do not believe in the WOF movements "name it and claim it" prosperity sayings. I also believe that "thy will be done" is not a sin since Jesus said it. I am not at all now and niether do I plan to be involved in WOF teaching. I am saying that we should not throw out the baby with the bath water. God has made promises and covenants that He will not break and we do need to know, and understand, God's covenants with us: Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good? The following scripture is not directly related to this subject, but I just like to read it: 2 Peter 3 8But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us,[1] not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. |
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169 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 65359 | ||
EdB, You said, "...the reason I fight WOF is I consider this false teaching to be the most harmful challenge to true Christianity of any lie placed on this earth... ...Everything circles around me in society God is at my beck and call. Humanity is the center of the universe, God has to respond to man. " This is part of the sin condition as men walk in the flesh, rather than in the spirit. False WOF teaching is just one small vulnerability of church goers, for some it is lust for sex, or lust for money, or pride. There is nothing new about these things: 1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--is not of the Father but is of the world. Doers--Not Hearers Only James 1:21 Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. 22But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. 26If anyone among you[2] thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one's religion is useless. 27Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world. Pastor Glenn |
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170 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 65422 | ||
Brother EdB, Why didn't you say this to gracefull 20 posts ago? They say you can catch more flies with honey. Now put down your weapon. Or are you like one of King David's mighty men: 2 Samuel 23:10 He arose and attacked the Philistines until his hand was weary, and HIS HAND STUCK TO THE SWORD. The LORD brought about a great victory that day; and the people returned after him only to plunder.(;-) Pastor Glenn |
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171 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 66366 | ||
justme, You said "...Perhaps being a pastor they might give you a bookand much materials! For me, at this point you are looking rather stuborn and ignorant. Two qualities that will retard your ministry and wind up limiting you on how to defend your faith against false teachers. You deceide for your self. I don't think I am making any headway with you on this. I would like you to see the truth crisp and clear. Perhaps you fail to see you have cloudy spiritual vision. I wont bother you to bring pearls up again. justme" "...stuborn and ignorant..."? Well, the only book that is really worth shoving at someone is the bible "pearls" itself. If you accept only those that agree with everything you say and every book that you like, then you have a problem. This is the "studybibleforum", not the "CRIforum". Pastor Glenn |
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172 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 66375 | ||
Joe, You said, "...You are likening a Christian ministry to the Pharisees and to those who hate and oppose God. " No, I was likening CRI with Paul's christian ministry and how he was careful not to oppose God by speaking evil of the high priest. Please read Ray's post here if you do not understand: "...When the high priest Ananias commanded someone to stike Paul on the mouth, Paul was led to speak out against him, not knowing that he was God's high priest. So in a sense he was fighting aginst God and so he said, "I was not aware, brethren, that he was high priest; for it is written, "You shall not speak evil of a ruler of your people." So he pursued a different argument. ..." We all need to be careful of what spirit we are of: Luke 9:54And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?" 55But He turned and rebuked them, and said, "You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. 56For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives but to save them." And they went to another village. James 1:19 So then,[1] my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath; 20for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God. Pastor Glenn |
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173 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | Pastor Glenn | 66376 | ||
justme, You are right, the bible should not be shoved at anyone, but why do you shove CRI books at me? I have not disagreed that WOF is false doctrine. I have kindly asked you to tell me about the book as to whether or not it covers the scripture of Mark 9:38-41. Instead of responding to my question you jumped in on my response that was addressed to Hank and call me "stuburn and ignorant". You said, "...Hank has a more elequent way of saying in one sentence what takes me a page to do. " Well, all the more reason to let Hank answer his own posts. Pastor Glenn |
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174 | Predestination: scriptures meaningless? | John | Pastor Glenn | 61275 | ||
JRdoc, You said:"If Christ dies for (1) "all sins of all men" then why are any lost? After-all is not "unbelief" a sin? And if He died for the sin of "unbelief" how could any be lost--but some are aren't they! " Unbelief is a CHOICE. By not believing in the name of the only begotten Son of God sinners choose to remain condemned: John 3:18"He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. God's plan of salvation by choice gives all men the same choice that Adam had: life or death This is why Jesus was able to say: John 3:14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15that whoever believes in Him should not perish but[2] have eternal life. They had the choice to either look upon the bronze snake or continue to die of the snake bites that they had recieved: Numbers 21 9 And Moses made a (1) bronze serpent and set it on the standard; and it came about, that if a serpent bit any man, when he looked to the bronze serpent, he lived. Salvation by Choice: 1. Preaching (Always necessary) 2. Hearing (Those that are eventually saved may not respond at first.) 3. Believing (Our Choice) 4. ***Born Again*** a. Spiritual growth (now have a ear to hear deeper truths, more light given), b. Stagnation (remain baby), c. Back slide Salvation by Predestination God Chooses his Elect 1. Preaching (does not matter since God will bring the light through someone eventually.) 2. Hearing (they will respond the first time since they already have an ear to hear.) 3. Believing (Automatic since God has already chosen them.) 4. ***Born Again*** (Automatic since God has already chosen them.) a. Spiritual growth (now have a ear to hear deeper truths, more light given), b. Stagnation (not possible), c. Back slide (not possible) God Bless, Pastor Glenn |
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175 | Predestination: scriptures meaningless? | John | Pastor Glenn | 61285 | ||
JR doc, You wrote: "But, even in your theology "if it is a choice" it still must be a forgiven choice, or else you make salvation a "work" and not by grace alone. And this is what you explained and is what you believe, but not what the Scripture asserts. " What the scripture asserts: John 3:18"He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. "...he who does not believe is condemned already..." If we make the choice to believe in the name of Christ, then we do not need to be forgiven for choosing unbelief: "He who believes in Him is not condemned..." You said:"Salvation by Arminian Free-will Choice: Impossible (John 1:13) " Put into context: John 1:12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. John 1:12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: John 1:12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: God bless, Pastor Glenn |
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176 | Predestination: scriptures meaningless? | John | Pastor Glenn | 61300 | ||
JRdoc, You said: "You affirm that Christ died for ALL (without exception) the sin of ALL (without exception) men. This is the affirmation of Arminianism and yours as well as you stated and affirmed. Now, UNBELIEF is a sin. If Christ did not die for it than ALL are still in their sin. If Christ died for the sin of UNBELIEF for ALL MEN (without exception) then NONE (without exception) could ever be lost. This is UNIVERSALISM and this is what your doctrine affirms whether you like it or not. " Unbelief is not “a” sin, it is the sin “condition” of the flesh that we inherited from Adam: Romans 5:18Therefore, as through one man's offense judgment came to all men, resulting in “condemnation”, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. 19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous.21For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. That sin condition stays on the flesh forever: 1Cor 15: 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. You said: "1. Now this doctrine denies the so called free-will of man. After-all your doctrine affirms that the sin of UNBELIEF has been taken care of at Calvary for ALL men without exception and thus THE DECISION has been made. So please do not accuse Calvinists of doing that which you do to the glory of man. " Now I say again: “If we make the choice to believe in the name of Christ, then we do not need to be forgiven for choosing unbelief: “ God bless, Pastor Glenn |
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177 | Predestination: scriptures meaningless? | John | Pastor Glenn | 61332 | ||
JRdoc, I said: "...unbelief is not "a" sin... Rom 5:18-21" You said: "1. Funny, but untrue. ..." You completely ignor the scripture. "...What in turn you have said is that NO ONE may be lost because UNBELIEF (which everyone has) is NOT SIN. ..." Everyone IS lost in the sin condition of the flesh: Psalm 51:5Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me. After we choose Christ we are born of the Spirit and can live in our new spirit nature by dying to the flesh. "...Since it is not a sin (so you say) it does not need to be forgiven. ..." Isaiah 55:6Seek the LORD while He may be found, Call upon Him while He is near. 7Let the wicked forsake his way, And the unrighteous man his thoughts; Let him return to the LORD, And He will have mercy on him; And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon. I am not going to pretend to understand all of God's ways: Isaiah 55:8"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," says the LORD. 9"For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts. However, the first Passover was a choice to put blood over the door posts. To look upon the bronze serpent was a choice. Noah chose to move with fear and build the Ark of Safety. All of these were types and shadows of Christ involving simple choices to believe God's warning. Salvation is still a gift. It is a lie to call it a "work": Romans 3:4 Certainly not! Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar. As it is written: "That You may be justified in Your words, And may overcome when You are judged."[3:4 Psalm 51:4] "...Thus anyone who is a unbeliever goes to Heaven? Please…Get Real! " No, but the sin condition of the flesh leads to the choice of unbelief: Gal 5:19Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[3] fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21envy, murders,[4] drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. "2. Next you assume that UNBELIEF is a condition of the “flesh” and not a “spiritual condition” Actually, I barely said 3 sentences in the entire post. Most of it was quoting you or scripture. Unbelief IS a spiritual condition, as well as, a condition of the flesh. "Christ has a different opinion of UNBELIEF than you: Mat 13: 58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their UNBELIEF. ..." This is my point, their unbelief was due to walking in the flesh. All of your scripture quotes show this same thing. Unbelief is the opposit of faith. Faith is ... the evidence of things not seen. Abraham chose to believe God (faith in something with no physical proof) and it was counted to him for righteousness. By your reasoning, the parable of the sower is therefore meaningless: Mat 13:18 "Therefore hear the parable of the sower: 19When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside. (Shouldn't matter, if he was predestined he'll understand one day before he dies) 20But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; 21yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles. (Shouldn't matter, if he was predestined he'll stop stumbling one day before he dies)22Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. (Shouldn't matter, if he was predestined he'll become fruitful one day before he dies) 23But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty." " May God give you mercy to see the truth. " I choose Jesus by faith. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the life. Don't worry though, by your reasoning I will come around if God has predestined me anyway. God Bless, Pastor Glenn |
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178 | If Jesus did it, way can't I? | John 1:1 | Pastor Glenn | 91215 | ||
Tim, I wanted to add to what Radioman and yourself said, the focus on "Jehovah" is totally misplaced emphasis. The scriptures already have the emphasis on the name of the Son! You said: "The JW's try to make this practice into some kind of conspiracy." I have pointed out to Truthfinder that the great error is really the "spirit of anti-Christ", not "anti-Jehovah". But, he has not responded to this point. The bible is clear that there is no other name given among men by which we must be saved. John 3 18"He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Pastor Glenn |
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179 | Is Jesus was another of God's tests? | John 1:1 | Pastor Glenn | 140262 | ||
Exodus_20, We believe in one God, that manifests as three eternally distinct persons. This is what we call the Trinity. Is this easy to understand? No. However, God did give us an example using the man and wife: Gen 1 26 And God saith, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over fish of the sea, and over fowl of the heavens, and over cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that is creeping on the earth." 27 And God prepareth the man in His image; in the image of God He prepared him, a male and a female He prepared them. Notice "Us" and "Our" in verse 26, but "He" and "Him" in the very next verse (27). Gen 2 23 and the man saith, "This [is] the [proper] step! bone of my bone, and flesh of my flesh!" for this it is called Woman, for from a man hath this been taken; 24 therefore doth a man leave his father and his mother, and hath cleaved unto his wife, and they have become one flesh. (Young's Literal Translation) So just as a man and his wife are "one" flesh (but two persons), the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are "one" God (but three persons, the Trinity). Philippians 2 5 For, let this mind be in you that [is] also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, thought [it] not robbery to be equal to God, (YLT) So Jesus speaks of more than one person because they are more than one person, but one God. I hope this helps. |
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180 | Which proposition is scriptural? | John 3:16 | Pastor Glenn | 89069 | ||
Parable, Maybe what you were trying to say is based on this scripture: Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me. |
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