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1 | Sell what you have-give alms | Bible general Archive 4 | flyman172 | 212250 | ||
Jeff - When you speak of "charitable giving" the impression given is donating old clothes, putting money in the Salvation Army kettle, delivering a box of can foods to the Food Bank, giving a few hundred dollars to a church program for the homeless or making a contribution of several thousand dollars to a local charity. Hardly a process of selling your possessions and giving to the poor. In your own words of you first answer, "The verse has to be considered in the context of the surrounding verses. Jesus is not saying sell all of your possessions, leaving yourself without means of living and giving it all away." Jeff, I am reading it as quite the opposite. Jesus is saying "Sell your possesions and give to the poor" for just as the birds, lilies of the field and the ravens are well looked after by God, God will look after us. We have no need to worry, we have no need for possesions. Jesus said do not be like the rich man who prepared for a good retirement but was not rich with God. Lay not your treasures on earth but in heaven, for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. If you are keeping treasures here on earth, then your heart is there and not in heaven. Jeff, I want to follow my Lord the correct way and if it requires me to sell my possesions and give to the poor, then I must obey. flyman |
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2 | Sell what you have-give alms | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 212262 | ||
Flyman- I’m beginning to believe that part of your problem is that you’re argumentative which may lead to being unteachable. You asked for the meaning of a single verse and then reply immediately with a rebuttal when the meaning is given. Hardly a good way to get started and certainly a poor approach to learning. Your “impression” about what charitable giving is, is just that… you impression. Unfortunately, many share your impression. A couple of dollars in the donation bucket and I’m done. I’m sure that nothing in my post gave you that impression or was even suggestive of such; again, the impression is your own. You are not seeing the verse and the meaning for what it is because you already have your mind made up about it (which is why I am confused that you asked the question in the first place). You’re failing to apply logic and rational thinking to the verse. Logic and rational can only be applied if you know and understand the precepts taught in Scripture that speak to the issue. So I suggested you do some word studies including that of “steward”. I see that you have not yet. Furthermore, you are even missing the context of individual sentences. You have to pay better attention if you truly want to understand what is being said. I’ll say it again. We are not told anywhere in Scripture to give away the very means of survival that we have been blessed with. The whole point is missed if that is the conclusion you draw. Christ is talking, once again I write, about the spiritual condition of the person. Again, drawing your attention to the context, in verse 13 we have a person wanting something he has not earned and has no legal right to and yet he’s wanting his own brother to be forced into giving it to him. Sound familiar? Do the birds that are so well looked after not search for and gather food? Of course they do, and many creatures store up as well. The rich man was not lacking with God because he was rich or even because he stored up. His error was in his spiritual condition and his self-centeredness. He stored up his blessing without blessing others. He depended on his own effort without trusting God (or recognizing his stores were from God in the first place) he reasoned “to himself” and not with God. Did Jesus and His disciples give every dime they had to the poor or did they keep a money bag of their own to provide for their needs (hint, they kept a money bag). If you want to “follow my Lord the correct way” my friend, you must first discern what that way is. I’ll point you again and see if this helps. Read 2 Corinthians chapter 8. then read it again slowly and consider what is being taught. This is a good place to start in your study of stewardship. God bless, Jeff |
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3 | Sell what you have-give alms | Bible general Archive 4 | flyman172 | 212263 | ||
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4 | Sell what you have-give alms | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 212264 | ||
flyman, With all due repsect... Are you trying to tell the forum that we will no longer hearing from you? I wish it wasn't so. Stand in his grace, WOS |
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5 | Sell what you have-give alms | Bible general Archive 4 | flyman172 | 212266 | ||
WOS In your personal profile you say you choose to be a disciple of Christ. With all due respect, how do you reconcile, "without compromise or rationalization," Luke 14:33, "...whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple."? You have a loving family with three children. With all due respect, How do you reconcile "without Rationalization or Compromise" Luke 14:26, where Jesus says you must hate your father, mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters in order to be His disciple? These are very valid questions, my friend, I would like to know how you do it. With all due respect, flyman |
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6 | Sell what you have-give alms | Bible general Archive 4 | flyman172 | 212267 | ||
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