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1 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | TheFinalSQL | 126706 | ||
You understand it correctly. Yes, Jesus definately had the opportunity to sin, but a sin nature is not required to have the ability to sin. Adam and Eve did not have a sin nature yet they did sin. Genesis 2:16-17 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Praise the Lord! Norm |
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2 | What then do we need to sin? | Bible general Archive 2 | Stultis the Fool | 126708 | ||
You say I understand what "sin nature" is, and you agree that it gives Christ the capacity to sin, but you argue it is unnecesary to have a "sin nature" in order to sin. So, what then do we need to sin? | ||||||
3 | What then do we need to sin? | Bible general Archive 2 | BradK | 126713 | ||
Stultis, Psalm 51:5 tells us " Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me." It has been wisley said that "We're not sinners because we sin, we sin because we're sinners". Christ, by His very nature had non capacity to sin. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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4 | What then do we need to sin? | Bible general Archive 2 | Stultis the Fool | 126733 | ||
Genesis 4:7 reads: "If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it." Here we learn that sin was not in Cain, but, seeking to have him, crouched "at the door." Cain chose to open that door and allow sin to master him, instead of mastering sin. Jesus, on the other hand, chose to shut the door on sin, and thus mastered sin. We do not "sin because we are sinners." We are created "in the image of God." What is God's image? God is spirit [15:47]. We are sinners because we have sinned, not because someone else did: Ezekiel 18:18 "As for his father, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was not good among his people, behold, he will die for his iniquity. Ezek 18:19 "Yet you say, 'Why should the son not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity?' When the son has practiced justice and righteousness and has observed all My statutes and done them, he shall surely live. Ezek 18:20 "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son's iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself. We sin because we are tempted: James 1:14 and 15: "But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death." What you describe is akin to Paul in Romans chapter 7. This is a description of man in the flesh. We know from this chapter that the flesh is "weak," and James tells us it is prone to lusts. In the Psalm you quote, David is speaking of recieving life in his corruptable flesh. Christ came to us in the same corruptable flesh [Romans 8:3]. Allow me to reiterate Hebrews 4:15 "For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin." As in the examples above, we are not "born with sin." We are born with fleshly bodies, corruptible and given to lust, and sin seeks to have us all. As there is no one person that is righteous, no not one, we have all failed the test and fallen short of the mark ... until Christ, who, born in the same corruptible flesh did not allow sin to have him, but mastered it where we failed, and offered himself as the spotless lamb to be the propitiation for our sins. But he could not have done such a thing had he not put himself into the same image of man, tempted by the same lusts of the flesh, thus allowing him to sympathize and suffer as we do. |
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