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1 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | TheFinalSQL | 126701 | ||
"The Bible says that through one man, sin entered the world. I am not aware of a scripture that says it is transmitted through the blood. Please advise on this. Jesus was born of a woman, but he did not sin. Jesus also, while in the image of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be exploited, but humbled himself, taking the form of a slave, and being made in the likeness of men. So was he also formed in iniquity? Please advise on this.The Bible says that through one man, sin entered the world. I am not aware of a scripture that says it is transmitted through the blood. Please advise on this. Jesus was born of a woman, but he did not sin. Jesus also, while in the image of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be exploited, but humbled himself, taking the form of a slave, and being made in the likeness of men. So was he also formed in iniquity? Please advise on this." You hit the nail on the head. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Sin entered into the world through Adam, not Eve. Jesus was not formed in iniquity, not only did Jesus not sin, there was no sin nature in him: 1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. There was no sin in Jesus because his father was not a man, but the Holy Ghost: Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. This is how the blood of Jesus can be substituted for our blood to wash away our sins. Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. If Jesus's blood was not shed it would have had no power to take away our sins: Hebrews 9:15-17 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. Praise the Lord! Norm |
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2 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | Stultis the Fool | 126704 | ||
You wrote: "there was no sin nature in him" This, if I understand your statement, is incorrect. I agree that the Christ did not sin, but I argue that he had every opportunity to sin. That is why he endured temptation. If he could not choose to sin, there would be no temptation following his forty days fast in the wilderness, nor a temptation to flee his course when Peter (Satan) told him never to go to Jerusalem. If I misunderstand your statement, then I appologize. |
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3 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | TheFinalSQL | 126706 | ||
You understand it correctly. Yes, Jesus definately had the opportunity to sin, but a sin nature is not required to have the ability to sin. Adam and Eve did not have a sin nature yet they did sin. Genesis 2:16-17 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Praise the Lord! Norm |
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4 | What then do we need to sin? | Bible general Archive 2 | Stultis the Fool | 126708 | ||
You say I understand what "sin nature" is, and you agree that it gives Christ the capacity to sin, but you argue it is unnecesary to have a "sin nature" in order to sin. So, what then do we need to sin? | ||||||
5 | What then do we need to sin? | Bible general Archive 2 | BradK | 126713 | ||
Stultis, Psalm 51:5 tells us " Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me." It has been wisley said that "We're not sinners because we sin, we sin because we're sinners". Christ, by His very nature had non capacity to sin. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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6 | What then do we need to sin? | Bible general Archive 2 | Stultis the Fool | 126733 | ||
Genesis 4:7 reads: "If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it." Here we learn that sin was not in Cain, but, seeking to have him, crouched "at the door." Cain chose to open that door and allow sin to master him, instead of mastering sin. Jesus, on the other hand, chose to shut the door on sin, and thus mastered sin. We do not "sin because we are sinners." We are created "in the image of God." What is God's image? God is spirit [15:47]. We are sinners because we have sinned, not because someone else did: Ezekiel 18:18 "As for his father, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was not good among his people, behold, he will die for his iniquity. Ezek 18:19 "Yet you say, 'Why should the son not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity?' When the son has practiced justice and righteousness and has observed all My statutes and done them, he shall surely live. Ezek 18:20 "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son's iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself. We sin because we are tempted: James 1:14 and 15: "But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death." What you describe is akin to Paul in Romans chapter 7. This is a description of man in the flesh. We know from this chapter that the flesh is "weak," and James tells us it is prone to lusts. In the Psalm you quote, David is speaking of recieving life in his corruptable flesh. Christ came to us in the same corruptable flesh [Romans 8:3]. Allow me to reiterate Hebrews 4:15 "For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin." As in the examples above, we are not "born with sin." We are born with fleshly bodies, corruptible and given to lust, and sin seeks to have us all. As there is no one person that is righteous, no not one, we have all failed the test and fallen short of the mark ... until Christ, who, born in the same corruptible flesh did not allow sin to have him, but mastered it where we failed, and offered himself as the spotless lamb to be the propitiation for our sins. But he could not have done such a thing had he not put himself into the same image of man, tempted by the same lusts of the flesh, thus allowing him to sympathize and suffer as we do. |
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