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1 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | atdnr | 126536 | ||
I'd like to compile a list of "Things not in the Bible, but people think they are" and am looking here for help. Examples are, "God helps those who help themselves." is NOT in the Bible. (at least I'm pretty sure it isnt.) People think the forbiden fruit was an apple, but the Bible only says "fruit" "Money is the root of all evil" is NOT in the Bible. Can you guys help me out with this list? Thanks! |
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2 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | Ancient | 126635 | ||
I think I have an answer to the fruit thing. In The Song of Solomon 2:3 is says "Like an apple tree among the trees of the forest, so is my beloved among the young men. In his shade I took great delight and sat down, and his fruit was sweet to my taste." Some early church speculations, Gnostic if I'm not mistaken, suggested that the original sin was sexual in orientation. Hence, Adam's "apple" in correlation with the passage in Song of Solomon which uses familiar terminology for a man's love. I don't know that I hold to this view as truthful, but in the pursuit of truth, I at least consider the possible credibility of the concept. I'm undecided. Hope this sheds some light on where the phrase came from. Ancient |
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3 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | JCrichton | 126653 | ||
Hi, Ancient! The problem is that apples, of all shapes and sizes, abound in the world... This specific fruit--which was made inaccessible after the transgression--would have no relevance to apples! God Bless! Angel |
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4 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | Ancient | 126666 | ||
Angel, Interesting thought. You make a reasonable point on a material and physical level. I will have to disagree with you, though, on the grounds that we are speaking of two different things. Your statement has merit, but is of a different nature from my statement. This is not to say that you are wrong, only that your answer addresses my statement on the wrong level. You are speaking physically. I am speaking metaphorically. According to the previously related hypothesis, the knowledge of good and evil is quite readily available in the world today. If the creation story is part allegory, and many do believe that, then the fruit, while growing on a tree in the Garden of Eden, is merely symbolic, and still within grasp. Ezekiel 31 gives an interesting analogy on the Garden of Eden, reckoning it to be the world, and the trees the people in it. What I was saying is that, according to the hypothesis, the fruit, as opposed to being something material, was something spiritual; knowledge of good and evil. When she tasted the fruit, being supposed as something sexual according to this hypothesis, it can also be correlated to the figurative use of the apple tree in the garden portrayed in the Song of Solomon. Which tree, as it is there written, is recognized as being a man, and the fruit of the apple tree being his love (whether affectionate or physical is not clearly stated). In other words, the knowledge of good and evil is in the world, and this originally came by way of the fruit. As said knowledge passes from one generation to the next, it is reasonable to consider that the fruit has either a long-lasting taste, or the fruit, perpetuating seeds, has generated new trees from which to taste that we all might die and find new life. Let me reiterate what I said before: I am undecided as to whether this has credible merit. However, we should be quick to listen, and we should never silence wisdom. If we don't consider the possibility, we can never find truth. Thank you for your response. Again, you make a good point, and it is worth consideration. Ancient |
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5 | Things people THINK in the BIBLE but not | Bible general Archive 2 | kalos | 126673 | ||
Avoid allegorizing the Bible ____________________ If the meaning of the Bible "cannot be discerned through the normal understanding of language, how can it be discerned?" ____________________ Matthew 19:4-6 (ESV) He answered, "Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, [5] and said, 'Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh'? [6] So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate." "Compare Gen. 1:27; 2:23-24. Observe in Matt. 19:4-6 Jesus' confirmation of the Genesis narrative of the creation" (New Scofield Reference Bible, Oxford, 1967). Avoid allegorizing the Bible "Avoid spiritualizing or allegorizing the Bible. This is that which gives to the Bible some kind of mystical meaning. In other words, what is on the surface is not the meaning, but what is hidden becomes the meaning. This is very popular. Allegorizing means to say that the historical meaning is not the real meaning, and in fact may be nothing but a fabrication. The historical meaning is not the real meaning, the real meaning is the spiritual meaning hidden beneath the surface. "And once you say that something in the Bible is an allegory, that is, it is only a symbol of the reality, you have just made it impossible to know what that reality is because if that reality cannot be discerned through the normal understanding of language, how can it be discerned?" ____________________ (from the radio message: "How to Study Your Bible: Interpretation" by John MacArthur on Grace to You broadcast) |
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