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1 | New Perspective of Sha'ul | NT general Archive 1 | Talmid of Yeshua Ha Maschiach | 193575 | ||
Thank you Steve. As I noted in my previous post, Wikipedia is a dubious source and I do not agree with all of it. I studied the Scriptures daily for a long time and I did not find this site till I had already become convicted. It just confirmed some things. Also, Wikipedia is not my only source, I have a great deal of other books relating to this topic, both for and against, that I have read with all diligence in trying to find out the truth. What did Peter mean by "placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers not we have had the strength to bear"? The yoke that he speaks of is the oral tradition and laws that were binding in Rabbinical Judaism, not the actual Torah. Of course, no one could keep these, for they had missed the whole point of the law. Again, this was brought up by the Judaizer sect that wanted all to be circumcised before they could receive salvation. I full heartedly agree with Galations 2:11-16, for Peter was being a hypocrite, all because of his fear of the Judaizing sect. Paul had every right to go off at him! As to whether he loved Y'shua the less and whether he was out of fellowship with Him, he was neither. As I said before, the law is not for salvation. I will repeat it again, the law is not the means of salvation. Naturally, Peter was not at fault in any way, other than that he acted a hypocritical part. I love the law, as much as David did in Psalm 119. I do not romanticize it. Also, I have every hope of keeping it, I may not be perfect (and never will be), but I will try my utmost. Yes, if I do fail one part, I am guilty of breaking them all; but if I do fail, the One who gave them to me and has saved me from all sin, will forgive me and help me to continue on. Again, I try because of John 14:15. Why is it, that people can only see the law as a means unto justification and sanctification? Is it because of the hellenistic mindset that we think in? I don't know, but I don't find faith and works incompatible. John 8:32, that is the truth. I am thankful for your efforts, but I am sorry that you think I am misguided. Your affectionate brother in the body of Christ, Amsel (aka Talmid) |
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2 | New Perspective of Sha'ul | NT general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 193600 | ||
Hello Amsel, Peter was not speaking of the oral tradition. This is plain by referring back to verse 1 where they were teaching, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved." This is not oral tradition but a command given by God through Moses. And who said anything about faith and works being incompatible? Read James 2:14-26. Are you equating those works with works of the law? There is nothing to warrant such a position. You are using Hebrew words and names to communicate to English-speaking people and state that you want to keep the law. That is sufficient proof that you are overly enamored with Judaism. What was the law given for? To give the knowledge of sin (Rom 3:20) and act as a guardian until Christ (Gal 3:23-28). I have the same concern as Paul: Gal 4:9-11 (ESV) But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more? [10] You observe days and months and seasons and years! [11] I am afraid I may have labored over you in vain. Steve |
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3 | New Perspective of Sha'ul | NT general Archive 1 | lionheart | 193612 | ||
Steve, Good day brother. I wholeheartedly agree with you. You and I along with so many others grew up in a western culture and consequently we will approach most things with a western mindset. We can't always do that where the bible is concerned. It helps allot when people know or understand that the bible was born in an eastern culture and the majority of those who wrote wrote the bible (God is the author) grew up and were raised in that culture. So we cant always approach things the way would like to. I spent allot of time overseas while I was in the navy and it was a definite plus to understand how the local populace thought about and did things. When we approach our study of the bible with this in mind we will find our study of bible even more effective. In Him, lionheart |
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