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1 | New Perspective of Sha'ul | NT general Archive 1 | Talmid of Yeshua Ha Maschiach | 193534 | ||
Brother Doc, First of all, you still did not explain what the word soteriology means. I have tried looking it up, but cannot find what it means. Secondly, do not take this personally as I say this to the whole world, how many times do I have to say that I do not believe that the Torah is the means unto Salvation?! "Woe to you hypocritical Torah-teachers and P'rushim! You pay your tithes of mint, dill, and cumin; but you have neglectedthe weightier matters of the Torah - Justice, Mercy, Trust. These are the things you should have attended to - without neglecting the others!" (Matthew 23:23) Having said that, of course I agree with Ephesians 2. Actually, why stop at Ephesians, I believe the whole Bible to be the inerrrant Word of the Most High. I could quote some things that these men have said that would make anyone turn over in his grave. Take Augustine, he said that he had most of the doctrines of the gospel already from his studies under Plato. Chrysostom, well, he was a jew hater through and through. Seven sermons he wrote on the rightness of the hatred of Jews. Luther, the half-way catholic, another anti-semite. Having written many articles on the poison of the Jews. I could go on, but what is the point? True, they did expound many truths and fix many problems, but they are still men. Oh, and yes the closed canon of Scripture is the only guide and judge to doctrine. Check what these "learned" men have to say first and diligently compare it with the Scriptures. For, we must seek to do, not just know, what the Bereans did. As to the First church, they were far more accurate than we will ever be. Why? They were closer to the source, that is not to say they were perfect. No man can or will ever be perfect and while the body of believers is made up of mankind, then it is going to be fallen. Your brother in Y'shua HaMashiach, Talmid (Num 6:24-26) |
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2 | New Perspective of Sha'ul | NT general Archive 1 | DocTrinsograce | 193540 | ||
Dear TYMH, I apologize for not defining my terms. I had supposed that one familiar with the names you brought up would also be familiar with some of their terminology. Of course, describing what I said as "contradictory" was also a bit misleading! :-) Anyway... Soteriology is the study of the doctrine of salvation. It derives its name from the Greek word soterious meaning salvation. Some of the sub-categories of soteriology are atonement, imputation, regeneration, sanctification, etc. Most Reformed theologians regard salvation as the primary theme in Scripture, with the glory of God as its ultimate goal. In personal and formal studies I've read much of the writings and sermons of the men you've mentioned. As a Jewish believer I haven't found them anti-semitic at all. But then, Paul's assessment of Jews was a "...stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, ... always resist[ing] the Holy Spirit as your fathers did, so do you..." (Acts 7:51 ESV) I would venture that all of them agreed with Paul. Since it was the Holy Spirit's assessment, too, I sure won't quibble over it! Does that make us all anti-semitic? :-) By the way, you wrote, "...the First church, they were far more accurate than we will ever be. Why? They were closer to the source..." (sic) This is a question in another discipline of theology called ecclesiology -- the study of the church. (The particular perspective you've expressed has a fancy label, too. It is called reverse chronological chauvinism.) The logical conclusion of your assertion is that the efforts spoken of in Ephesians 5:26-27 and Titus 2:14 haven't been effective. Come to think on it, it also differs with the progress of redemptive history. But that's another topic. In Him, Doc |
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