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1 | James 1:9-10 high and low positions? | NT general Archive 1 | Pam D | 101986 | ||
Dear Tim, The crown of life illustration was great! I think you are right on that one. That was very helpful. But I am still struggling with the James 1:9-10. You said that for the poor guy his high position is because he is in Christ. And for the rich guy his low position is his human fraility. Why wouldn’t the two different positions be speaking of the same subject? For example, if we are right in thinking that the high position for the poor brother is his being in Christ, why wouldn’t the low position of the rich person be speaking of the same subject, his low position in Christ? Also, vs 11 says the rich man in the midst of his pursuits will fade away. All commentaries I have consulted seem to say what you have been saying, except one - “The New Bible Commentary” edited by D.A. Carson, R.T. France, J.A.Motyer, and G.J. Wenham. This commentary says: “The brother in humble circumstances is encouraged to see himself from God’s perspective and take pride in his high position. ...In contrast the rich person should take pride in his low position. This is probably a deliberately ironic statement. The term “rich” in James is used only for non-believers. James does know of some wealthy Christians (2:2, 4:13) but he speaks of them without calling the “rich”. While the verse might mean that a rich man could properly take pride in having been humbled by God and brought to associate as an equal with poor Christians, it is more likely that James is saying that if the rich person looks at the same future as the “humble” brother, the only thing he has to take pride in is his “low position”, or “his passig away. .... “ What do you think? Could this explanation be right? It differs quite a bit from the other commentaries I have, which is why I feel a little nervous about it. If I may, let me ask you one more question. If you were to teach an adult class on the book of James, what commentaries would you use that would give you in-depth information on each verse? I ask because I am teaching a ladies bible study on the book of James. I have 4 commentaries (the New Bible Commentary (quoted above), the Bible Knowledge Commentary by John Walvoord, the Life Application Commentary, and The Be Book Commentary on James by Wiersbe), but none really goes into the depth I’m interested in pursuing. I enjoy in-depth stuff. Thank you so much for your help and the time you put into answering my questions, especially since you have been busy with other important matters. Blessings, Pam |
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2 | James 1:9-10 high and low positions? | NT general Archive 1 | EdB | 102030 | ||
Pam If I might suggest a commentary. Zpiros Zodhiates of Hebrew Greek Bible fame brought out a three volume commentary on James. It is called Faith Love Hope published by AMG. The Three books are titled, "The work of Faith" covering James 1:1-2:13, The labor of love covering James 2:14-4:12 and The patience of Hope covering 4:13-5:20. I think they would be a great help in you Bible study. EdB |
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3 | James 1:9-10 high and low positions? | NT general Archive 1 | Pam D | 102108 | ||
Dear Ed, Thanks so much for your suggestion on a commentary for James. I have two books by Zodhiates, "The complete Word Study Old Testament" and "The Complete Word Study Dictionary". Both are helpful. I am sure that a commentary by him would be great! I will probably order it. Do you have Zodhiates 3 volume commentary set on the book of James? If so, what does he say about James 1:9-10 and what does he say the rich brothers low position is? Blessings, Pam |
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4 | James 1:9-10 high and low positions? | NT general Archive 1 | EdB | 102143 | ||
Pam :-) verses 9 and 10 are chapters 9 and 10 in his book. Basically Zodhiates explains it the similar to the idea NLT conveyed. We become equal in Christ and therefore one shouldn't become exalted or depressed. You ned to read it for yourself it is an excellent study. EdB |
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5 | James 1:9-10 high and low positions? | NT general Archive 1 | Pam D | 102506 | ||
Dear Ed, I just wanted to let you know that I ordered Zodhiates commentary on James, "Faith, Love and Hope". I should get it Thursday. I think I am going to hold off on ordering the ones that Tim suggested. Thanks again for the suggestion and for your help. By the way, what do you think the "Crown of Life is in James 1:12? Blessings, Pam |
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6 | James 1:9-10 high and low positions? | NT general Archive 1 | EdB | 102508 | ||
Pam I'm glad I was able to help. The "crown of life" is an allusion or analogy to eternal life very similar to what we see Paul mentioning in 1 Cor. 9:25. But once again we see condition that being the command/demand that we endure, or that we keep His commandments. Far too many today think they can live like hell and still be saved. EdB |
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