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1 | TATTOOS....yea or nay?? | Bible general Archive 1 | Montag | 73846 | ||
EdB i'm fully prepared to be responsible before God for any opinion i have expressed on this subject. i'm not worried since my position is not contrary to the Nature of Almighty God. since you brought the Leviticus passage back up let me just ask you... do you believe the Law of God will save you from your sins? according to Paul the Apostle it has NO power to justify anyone, (Rom 3:19-20) 19. Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; 20. because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin. would you say that someone who is not circumsized cannot be a Christian? of course not because the mere act of circumsism does nothing to justify an individual. Paul addressed this in the Epistle to the Galatians when the Judeaizers were trying to apply the Law to gentiles that wanted to become Christians.... (he was rather passionate in his defense of his position.) in the same way, if you try to attach ANY part of the Law to salvation then you have already nulified the work Christ accomplished on the Cross of Calvary. that is something that i, personally, would like to stay FAR away from. as far as the permanent disfiguration of what God originally created, how many people with surgical scars are permanently "disfigured" in a similar way. whether it was self-inflicted or not has no bearing since you are concerned with what God "intended" us to look like. finally, i feel that by living in the liberties that Christ has given us i am honoring God in a very real and personal way. there is no "either/or" with liberty and honor, they mesh beautifully together. (Gal 5:1) It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. Freed by Christ, Montag |
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2 | TATTOOS....yea or nay?? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 73852 | ||
Montag Your right we can't keep the LAW and while our salvation is not based on our ability to keep or not keep the Law, we have not been given liberty to break the law. Your argument flies in the face of what Paul wrote in Romans 6:15 “What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be!” Our justification does not come from the LAW but rather from the one that died for us, however we are still to obey His Law and His teaching. Grace is not a license to commit sin. Comparing a scar to a tattoo is like comparing a car accident to intentionally driving a car off a cliff. My friend there is no justification in disregarding God’s prohibition against tattoos, whether you call it a display of your liberty or as I call it rebellion, your still in opposition to what God told us not to do. I would rethink offering this advice to others as it does violate God's nature. God has a reason for telling us not tattoo ourselves and neither liberty nor grace makes it okay to violate that prohibition. EdB |
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3 | TATTOOS....yea or nay?? | Bible general Archive 1 | Montag | 73956 | ||
EdB please tell me you don't keep the whole Law of God found in the OT. if you do, then you should still being slaying bulls and goats for the burnt offerings as a covering for your sin. you cannot say that this (offering sacrifices for sin) is NOT part of the Law of God because it clearly is. Jesus himself broke the Law of God as the Jews saw it in John 9 when he made clay on the sabbath and healed a man of blindness. bringing Romans 6:15 into the argument shows that you believe that getting a tattoo is a sin, plain and simple. i DON'T believe getting a tattoo is a sin AND i don't use God's amazing grace as a license to sin as you imply. i really don't appreciate that implication either. here is another passage for you to ponder since you don't really want to live apart from the Law yet. Galatians 3 [1] You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? [2] This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? [3] Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? [4] Did you suffer so many things in vain--if indeed it was in vain? [5] So then, does He who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? [6] Even so Abraham BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS. [7] Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. [8] The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU." [9] So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer. [10] For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM." [11] Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, "THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH." [12] However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, "HE WHO PRACTICES THEM SHALL LIVE BY THEM." [13] Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us--for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE"-- [14] in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. for the sake of getting my point across i would emphasize verses 2, 3, 10, and 13. this passage seems pretty clear to me... please read it prayerfully so that the Holy Spirit can illuminate your mind to the Truth it holds. i understand your hesitation in this matter since even Peter the Apostle had to be rebuked by Paul about this very issue. Read Acts 15 and Gal 2:11-21 for the whole story. if you can show me in the New Testament where a believer has to live under the Law after they are saved then i will concede that getting a tattoo is a sin. otherwise i will continue to stand with Paul and proclaim: "For through the Law I died to the Law, so that I might live to God. I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me." - Gal 2:19-20 Montag |
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4 | TATTOOS....yea or nay?? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 73988 | ||
Montag I course I do not keep all the Old Testament laws, many were fulfilled by Jesus. Many more were man made and still others were set aside. However tattoos do not fit in any of the above categories. Therefore I beleive they are still wrong. I do try not to do the things that were expressly prohibited by God. If God said don't do it, and it serves no purpose other than my selfish interest then I try not to do it. Again we were given freedom from the penalty of sin not license to commit sin. God called Homosexuality a sin and abomination, since that was in the Old Testament should I now say Homosexuality is okay? I know many Homosexual groups claim that, but in fact it is still a sin. Jesus said he didn't come to do away with the Law, but rather to free us from it penalty. Unless Jesus fulfilled the law as in the case of the Sabbath rest, or correct the law as in the case of restricted food, the law still stands. If we break the law we are rebelling against God however the Blood of Jesus covers that sin. He did not make it sinless, it is still sin. By grace we are forgiven of it. EdB |
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