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1 | Unbaptized children | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 21675 | ||
Hey reetxar, I do believe that we have tons in common in our beliefs. The reason I am so insistant is that the topic we are disscussing is a salvation issue. The questions you asked me are all answered in the study I told you about. As far as 1 Peter 3:21, the Bible says that "this water (the flood waters )symbolize baptism that now saves you also." It's not saying baptism is a symbol, it plainly says the flood waters are the symbol. The flood waters wiped out the sin in the world and saved Noah. Just as baptism wipes out sin and saves you. "Not the removal of dirt, but the pledge of a clear conscience before God". Peter is saying it's not a ritual cleaning like the old law required (he was addressing fellow Jews). It was more than that, it was an act of faith. Col. 3:12 "Having been buried with him in baptim and raised with him through your faith in the power of God who raised him from the dead." Without giving me your explanation of what baptism in water means from the scriptures, one is left to wonder why Jesus commanded it in the great commission. The answer rings out clear from Peter: “Repent and be baptized all of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” The very first sermon given. I think it does take faith to be saved. Why is it so hard to believe God would use the waters of baptism to connect us to the saving blood of our Lord? “Or don’t you know that all of us who are baptized into Christ have been baptized into his death. We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father we too may live a new life.” Rom. 6:1-10 . Is there faith in believing this? When James defines faith (chap.3), he shows us a faith that is an acting faith. So why get in a tizzy when we are commanded to be baptized for the forgiveness of our sins? I haven’t done anything to earn my salvation (works). But as far as going under the waters of baptism with a clear understanding of what it means, I would say that I have obeyed Gods command given by Jesus himself. I hope you do check out that study and approach it with an unbiased heart and much prayer to want to know the the truth. “You will seek me and find me if you seek me with all your heart.” Jer. 29:11 Kin |
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2 | Unbaptized children | Bible general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 21690 | ||
Seeking clarification........................... I apologize beforehand if you've answered this question in this thread. I may have missed it. If the flood waters are the type or picture of sin being wiped out for salvation, what is the antitype for the ark (and Noah and family)? Steve |
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3 | Unbaptized children | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 22787 | ||
Steve, A look at the passage doesn’t say specifically what the antitypes are for Noah and the ark. It does say that Noah was saved; and that because he obeyed God. One could even say that it was his faith that saved him. After all, it must of taken a lot of faith to spend about 75-100 years building an ark in the desert with only three other men helping him (his sons in laws). Probably laughed at and scoffed at the whole time. But his faith in what God said drove him to build the ark and thus be saved. Maybe the ark is symbolic to the church. Those in the church are saved; those in the ark were saved. Just a thought. “For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also--not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven and is at God's right hand--with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.” 1 Peter 3:20-21 What the passage does say is that “baptism now saves you also”. Doesn’t make any sense in my humanistic thinking that God would use the waters of baptism to connect me with Jesus’ death burial and resurrection. But then again, I bet it didn’t make much sense to Noah to build an ark in the desert. So I guess all we can do when it doesn’t make sense in our flesh is to obey with our heart. |
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