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1 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | casiv | 19641 | ||
Ed, I really want to talk about the mark but I can tell from your response that you may not have understood what I have said already and appear to be making a judgment without complete understanding. Because of this the questions I have asked are necessary to continue. I have not confused you only the teachings that you have been taught verses some things I have said have confused you. If you understand revelation and the mark why talk to me? I will show you scripture, in depth, to support the 4 dynasties as the four horses which are the four beasts around the throne and yes it is supported in Matt 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 but, before I can go there I need to know what you think. These are not my own words or teachings I will show you. Before understanding the mark you must search and learn how the mark is placed within mankind and how the beast comes into power. Please answer the questions, they are not a trick, I am sincere.Are you? Also, do you think Rev 12:9 has already happened or is it in the future? |
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2 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 19644 | ||
Casiv I have made every effort and afforded you every opportunity to explain this to me. I think that shows a sincerity on my part. I will answer your questions but I ask you not to divert to an analysis of these without first explaining the Mark and how my observations do or do not apply. Also you said your not making this up on your own is there a book or another person that agrees with your interpretation of the these passages? Here is the answer to your questions. Ephesians 6:12 states that we are up against spiritual wickedness not flesh and blood. Before I go further with Revelation I need to know what this means to you? It means that it is not the flesh but the spirit that initiates the action. We shouldn’t come against the person but rather the spirit behind that person that is causing them to do something we see as wrong. And what does the Lords Day in Rev 1:10 also mean to you? I think John was saying it was Sunday or the first day of the week when he had the vision. However I also think the Day of Lord is something quite different in that it is represents the Judgement day. Do you believe Revelation is history or future? Revelation to me is future it has not happened, although I understand the Historic and Preterist view of Revelation. Do you believe we are to read the bible for our physical well being or spiritual well being? I read the Bible for both. If I keep my self from fornication I assure that I will never encounter a STD (sexually transmitted disease) thus my physical well being is assured. Also if I feed my spirit the Bread of Life the Word of God my spirit does prosper so I read the Bible for both. |
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3 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | casiv | 19647 | ||
Thanks Ed! I will work on your answer, please give me a little time. Regarding Rev 12:9 do you also believe that satan and his angels are going to be cast to the earth in future? And do you believe that satan deceives the WHOLE world through his miracles stated in Rev 13:12-15? By saying whole world is that everybody? Please answer these first. Thanks for your patience and sincerity! Peace, Casiv |
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4 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 19651 | ||
Casiv As for 12:9 I don't think that necessarily has to be in the future. I think in this case it has already taken place. As for Rev 13:12-15 I think Satan will deceive everyone that is not saved. Where is this all going? |
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5 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | casiv | 19653 | ||
Ed, I believe in order to teach one teaching must know what the one being taught thinks. If satan and his angels are already here when did this happen? And where or who are they? If you know? This is all relevent to the mark and how the beast operates. In scripture we are told to be wise a serpents, which I believe this says we are to know our enemy. You told me that you believe revelation was future, but now say you think rev 12:9 has already happened, I am confused by what you are saying, please help me to understand. I believe they are not here yet in person, but only in spirit which is how they have been setting up the beast system for hundreds of years. Do you believe you will be here, if these are the last days, for the tribulation? How do we know who is saved? Some believe they will not be here for the tribulation because of the rapture, is this what you mean or believe? The Bible is a thick book and there are many aspects to its understanding, I have tried to explain the mark via a "drive thru" style and this doesn't work, it only brought judgement against myself. This is not surprising because Jesus said we are to let the words speak for themself. Thanks! Casiv |
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6 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 19663 | ||
Casiv First Satan and his demon hoard are spirit beings, and yes we know Satan is here. The Book of Job confirms this also Jesus told us Satan comes to kill steal and destroy. When did Satan get here? I think he always had access to earth, again Job shows he travels between earth and heaven. It isn’t until Rev 12 where we see Satan lose access to heaven, in the meantime he is still the accuser of the saints which requires him access. I’m not sure what you mean when do they get here in person. Since they are spirit beings they don’t have ‘person’. Yes I think Revelation happens in the future but that is not saying all of it does. In fact Revelation jumps forward and backward in time many times. That is why it seem so confusing to many. As far as the tribulation I hope for a pre trib rapture but I can also accept mid trib. We don't know who is saved only God, why? Because only God can look at the heart. Again I have answered all your questions, we have hiked all around the forest when are you going to tell me about this mark or at least tell me where you are getting this so I can read it for myself EdB |
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7 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | casiv | 19665 | ||
What? Where or who is satan if he is here? What about the fallen angels which left their first estate and came and took daughters of men for wives and had giants as offspring? If they were not able to be a "person" how did they have children with women? What about Rev 12:12,13? This you believe has happened? When? Where? What I know comes from the Bible and the Holy Spirit who knows my patient and forgiving heart. What is your hurry? |
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8 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 19668 | ||
Casiv Whether a demon spirit or Satan can or can not take human form is beyond our understanding. I know you can argue Gen 6 but you also must know there is great division on this passage. In Job 1:7 when God asked Satan where he had been Satan clearly says earth. so we know he comes here in what form Spiritual or Physical I don't know nor do I want an introduction. No I don't think Rev 12:12-13 has happened yet. Satan is still the accuser of the saints and to accuse he has to access to the Father. Where is this all going? I'm only in hurry to find out if you have an understanding of the mark which makes sense to me. |
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9 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | casiv | 19672 | ||
You can start yourself by looking in the strongs for the word "mark". The first apparent mark is on Cain in Gen 4:15, the Hebrew #226. The first use of the word or number is usually the most accurate definition. Then start with the mark in Rev 13:16, the Greek #5480. Follow the numbers and you will be on the path to the understanding of the mark. You will need to understand the parable of the sower and the wheat and the tares. If you do not understand these you will not understand the mark. There are no mysteries hidden that shall not be revealed. Understanding the mark is where all these questions I have been asking you lead, but you have to work for understanding too. By the way what do you think the mark is?, before you started with me. In the Fathers Love, casiv |
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10 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 19678 | ||
Casiv When we started this you said you had an explanation of the mark of the beast found in The Book of Revelation. I asked you to enlighten me and tell me what it is. Since then you have asked all kinds of questions that I can see no reason for asking unless you were trying to bait be into some kind of discussion in order to deflect my question. In any case we are back where we started, with you saying you know what the mark is and me saying okay tell me. I understand the mark of Cain which ended in the flood. It differed from the mark of Rev in that the mark of Cain was a mark for preservation while the mark of Rev is the mark of those who want to honor the beast. So I see no correlation. I have chased Greek #5480 and quite frankly I know as much now as I did when I started. It is used 7 times once in Acts referring to idols and 6 times in Revelation taking about the Mark. If you know what the mark of the beast is then tell me if you don't then just say you don't and let's get on with life. |
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