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1 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | casiv | 19543 | ||
Ed, Do you understand the parable of the tares and the wheat? The good seed and the bad seed. Do you read the scriptures and study them using the original languages? If you don't, then you may not get it. I am sorry you are not understanding, I should not have allowed the people here to get away from the original question, but it happened. Rev 13:18 says count the number of the beast for it is the number of a man, the number is 666 and it is in the strongs concordance number 5516 in the greek. The first two sixes are the number of the books in the bible. The last six must be found in the strongs. Start at 5516 and then it tells you to go to 4742 to understand the cross as the last 6. The symbol for the number 6 at the time of crucifixion was a cross and then it became obsolete. Strongs 4742 in Greek says: stigma; from a prim. stizo to stick, i.e. prick; a mark incised or punched for recognition of ownership, i.e. scar of service: - mark By counting the number of the beast you mark the beast with your understanding of the deceptions he has put upon mankind and also who he uses to make his deceptions work. This is the number of the beast. The number of the beast is the number of a man. Count the bad seeds and you count the number of the beast. Its a murder, mystery and a wedding. There is a false wedding and a true wedding which one you attend is up to you, by your freewill to understand with all your heart the letter from our Father. Regarding Rev 6:5 the black horse and third seal are interesting because they are the only horse and seal in the same verse and are the only seal and horse in the right order for the beast system which is coming about in the world. The first beast in Rev 13 is the beast system which brings the antichrist into power. The black horse represents the economic dynasty, there are three others too. Do you know what they are? And who is the economic dynasty of the world? Hope this helps. Patience, all good things in all good time! |
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2 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 19559 | ||
Casiv Thank you for getting back to me!!! Is what your saying every time I realize a Satanic deception I’m marking the beast? Every time I realize a man’s teaching is false I’m marking him with the mark? Can man take this mark willingly or does he have to be a false teacher and have me realize it before it becomes manifest? As for the horses of Revelation. I always thought the White Horse represented – conquest, a lust for conquest similar to the one seen in men like Alexander the Great. The Red Horse – Represented War, the stealing of peace from the world. The Black Horse – Represented Famine, food would be in short supply and very precious. The Pale Horse – Represented Death, life ripped from its owners. Casiv can you recommend a good book that would explain what your teaching here? EdB |
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3 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | casiv | 19570 | ||
Yes Ed, when you mark a deception or false teaching you are marking the beast by putting a seal upon it, if you do so with understanding. What is a seal? A seal is a promise opened and read, power passed. To confirm or make secure by or as if by a seal. I don't understand your third question about willingly taking the mark. I hope no man takes the mark willingly. But what is the mark?, is it on your hand or on your head? No, it is in your head,or in your hand, this is a spiritual battle not a physical battle. I give all men the benefit of the doubt that they have good intentions which may have been, or may be, being led astray. The black horse comes carrying a scale and balance. In the old days these scale and balances were used for counting money. Therefore the black horse represents the economic dynasty. The red horse has the power to take peace. The only people with this ability are the polticians, so the red horse represents political dynasty. The white horse is the religion dynasty. The pale horse is the education dynasty. If you control education,politics,economics and religion you control the whole world. These are the four hidden dynasties through which the antichrist and false messiah come into power. The Bible is the book that explains all this. We need to take the scriptures into the original language to understand its true meanings. Please don't believe me or any man without checking it out for yourself. May Jesus show you the way! |
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4 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 19598 | ||
Casiv See here is where I have my problem with what your teaching. In Revelation 14 there is definite indications that some men will willingly take the mark. Nobody had to identify any bad teaching they just wanted to be able to buy and sell. So if the mark comes from when a saint seals a false teachers how do we explain Rev 14? Also the identity of horsemen wawsn't my conception but rather the explanation of the horsemen from the Bible itself. Yes the original language verifies that. So while your meanings are certainly interesting they actually are changing scripture. Paul said if anyone came to you with a different scripture than what is given then that person is to be considered a false teacher. This gets real scary you said if I found a false teacher and identified him then … Well I just don’t want to think about it. Brother I thought sure you were getting this teaching from another source and I was trying to identify that source. However the longer we correspond I’m getting more convinced you have developed this teaching yourself. It is interesting but since in has conflicts with scripture and actually disagrees with the meaning of the 4 horse men of Rev 6 I have to say your off track. EdB |
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5 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 19605 | ||
EdB, I think you have the four horsemen down to a tee, because that is the same description the Jesus point out will take place in Matt. 24. There is a book out that is one of the best that I have ever read on the subject of eschatology; it is called the Sign by Robert Van Kampen. It is a real eye opener that ties all of the verses on eschatology together, from the Old and New Testament. CDBJ |
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