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1 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 19548 | ||
Greetings Casiv! My friend, I think that you are confusing something in Strongs. There was an obselete letter in Greek called the stigma. However, it did not look like a cross. It was shaped like an upside down 5. In fact, it looked very similar to the final form of sigma. The two were very confusing, thus stigma was dropped. Strong refers to # 4742. This is not the letter, but the word stigma, which means mark. It is only used in the New Testament in Gal. 6:17, where it refers to the marks of the Lord Jesus, made by the cross. In addition, the only manuscript which uses the letter stigma in Rev. 13:18 is the Textus Receptus. All other manuscripts use the full names of the numbers. Thus, Rev. 13:18 says that the number of the beast is 'hexakosioi hexakonta hex' or six hundred sixty six. Everything else you said about the numbers is pure speculation without any Scripture to back it up! In Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | casiv | 19569 | ||
You are wrong Tim, The strongs 5516 in greek is ,chi xi stigma, pronounced, khee-xee-stig'-ma. The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter(4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet ( intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600,60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: -six hundred threescore and six. The way you are intrepreting is not right. What does your strongs say at 5516? Same as what is above? You could not find 666 to be explained in the strongs until you were given the Greek number 5516 and it was shown to you. You are interpreting 666 as separate numbers and they are one number as the greek number 5516 states. Are you saying that James Strong is wrong? These are his words from his concordance. What don't you understand about "everything else" that was said about numbers in the thread? Be more specific so I know what you are talking about. Your vagueness will confuse others. |
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3 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 19575 | ||
Greetings Casiv! Let me try this one more time! Please remember that I have several years of college level Greek and about 15 years experience at translating Greek. Strong's reference (# 5516) is to three letters, (the 22nd - Chi, the 18 - Xi, and an obsolete letter - stigma) which together represent the number 666. This particular combination is a shortcut for using the actual words for (600 60 6). Just about every manuscript, except for the Textual Receptus, uses the actual words. # 5516 is not a word, but a three letter combination found only in Rev. 13:18 and only in the Textus Receptus. Whichever form is used, the letter 'stigma' did not look like a cross. Do a search on the internet, or refer to the web site that I provided earlier, and you can see for yourself. It looked very much like a upside down or backwards 5. It also looked a lot like the final form of the 18 letter of the Greek alphabet - Sigma. Therefore, it fell out of usage. About the numbers, I understand what you are trying to say. Let me make it perfectly clear - YOU ARE MAKING IT UP! There is not Scripture that says the first two sixes are the books of the Bible and the last six is the cross. There is no Scripture that says 12 stands for governmental perfection and 11 stands for disorder. These are meanings that you (or someone else) have forced upon the numbers. There is no Scripture that says, 'Understand ye people that 12 stands for Governmental perfection.' Instead of wasting your time trying to figure out what mysterious meanings numbers are supposed to have - Read the Bible and see what God actually said! I hope I was not vague! In Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Only seal and horse in same verse Rev6:5 | Bible general Archive 1 | casiv | 19579 | ||
Matt 15:8 "This people draweth nigh unto Me with their mouth, and honoureth Me with their lips; but their heart is far from Me. Matt 15:9 But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Rev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and faith of the saints. |
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