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1 | Unbaptized children | Bible general Archive 1 | Hank | 21046 | ||
Good post, retxar. Good post, retxar. Good post, retxar. This trio is intentional, because it seems much in the vogue on this forum to say the same things over and over, and even then, there are some who just don't get it :-) ...... Yes, Jesus saves. Water doesn't. My thoughts go back a couple of years ago to an evening worship service at the church I belong to during which several believers were baptized (immersed). The building happens to located less than a mile from the Arkansas river, which is no small stream of water. My pastor, commenting on the rather large volume of water in our baptistry (both the sanctuary and the baptisry are large), noted that even if we could channel the Arkansas river to flow through our building, even that amount of water would not be able to wash away a single sin or save a single soul. How true, indeed. But the blood of our Lord shed on the old rugged cross is sufficient to wash away every sin and save every sinner who comes by faith to the Lord Jesus. --Hank | ||||||
2 | Unbaptized children | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 21132 | ||
Hank, How would you define faith? Kin |
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3 | Unbaptized children | Bible general Archive 1 | Hank | 21153 | ||
Kin, you ask how I would define faith, and I suppose you are asking about it in the context of "faith in the Lord Jesus" as I used it in the post to which your question is a response..... I mention this simply because there are several meanings in the New Testament for this word. There are, for example (1) an intellectual acceptance of spiritual truths -- James 2:19. (2) the fundamental, doctrinal content of Christianity -- Jude 3. (3) saving faith, a faith which rejects all confidence in and dependence on human effort and relies upon Jesus alone to give to the sinner a right relationship to God -- Phil.3:2-9.... In the first two kinds of faith there is no salvation. A person may well believe in and accept as being valid the broad spiritual truths (1) that the Bible teaches; he may believe in and accept in a general way that the doctrines of Christianity (2) are true. These two kinds of faith might be viewed as passive faith. He can have both and still not know Christ through the kind of saving faith (3) by which he surrenders himself to the Lordship of Christ, believing that only in Jesus Christ can his sins be forgiven and his right relationship to God be effected. --Hank | ||||||
4 | Unbaptized children | Bible general Archive 1 | kin | 21428 | ||
Hank, Is believing that we participate in the death burial and resserection of Christ in baptism take faith? Is it a saving faith to obey Acts 2:38? Is it unfathomable to think that God would use the waters of baptism to accomplish this? “Works” are following the Law, faith is obeying God. “Repent and be baptized, everyone of you, in the name of Jesus Christ, FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS AND YOU WILL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.” If one passage says to simply believe and this one says to be baptized, do I dare to pick and choose or do I accept them both? Consider the faith that it took for Naaman to be healed: “ The letter that he took to the king of Israel read: "With this letter I am sending my servant Naaman to you so that you may cure him of his leprosy." As soon as the king of Israel read the letter, he tore his robes and said, "Am I God? Can I kill and bring back to life? Why does this fellow send someone to me to be cured of his leprosy? See how he is trying to pick a quarrel with me!" When Elisha the man of God heard that the king of Israel had torn his robes, he sent him this message: "Why have you torn your robes? Have the man come to me and he will know that there is a prophet in Israel." So Naaman went with his horses and chariots and stopped at the door of Elisha's house. Elisha sent a messenger to say to him, "Go, wash yourself seven times in the Jordan. But Naaman went away angry and said, "I thought that he would surely come out to me and stand and call on the name of the LORD his God, wave his hand over the spot and cure me of my leprosy. Are not Abana and Pharpar, the rivers of Damascus, better than any of the waters of Israel? Couldn't I wash in them and be cleansed?" So he turned and went off in a rage. Naaman's servants went to him and said, "My father, if the prophet had told you to do some great thing, would you not have done it? How much more, then, when he tells you, Wash and be cleansed!" So he went down and dipped himself in the Jordan seven times, as the man of God had told him, and his flesh was restored and became clean like that of a young boy.” 2 Kings 5 Did the water heal him or his faith as he went into the water? And would have he been healed if he didn’t go into the water? Is baptism any different? Does the water save you? No But going into the water with faith does. Take a look at the study I put on the forum 10-01-01. It’s very in depth and insightful. (I didn’t make it up, I got it online). I look forward to hearing from you, Kin |
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5 | Unbaptized children | Bible general Archive 1 | Hank | 21432 | ||
Kin, being cured of leprosy and being saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ are not the same things, and thus it's my view that a proper analogy of one to the other cannot be made. I honestly feel that this question of "faith alone" vs. "faith plus baptism" in order to be saved has already been debated profusely enough on the forum. I therefore respectfully decline to add anything more to it except to say once more that I hold with those who believe that the Bible teaches very clearly that we are saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and by that alone. So I therefore, rather than to repeat much of what has already been said on the forum, ask that you instead follow up via the search feature the various threads that have been devoted to this topic. Having done this, Kin, please feel free to post any specific question that may still linger in your mind, and I feel confident someone will be able to address it. Blessings in Christ Jesus. --Hank | ||||||