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1 | What does baptism consist? | 1 John 5:6 | charis | 23336 | ||
Dear Nolan, Greetings my friend, in Jesus' name! If I may, I would like to point out that we cannot say that any book of the Bible was written specifically for the benefit of one particular audience, unless we say it was written for God's people. For us. Even James. As to 'salvation Scriptures do not mention water baptism,' you may be correct in a specific sense, but the correlation between the *saved* and water baptism is abundant! The *saved* got baptised because it is God's will. You are right that it is not a legal requirement, but strongly (Sripturally) recommended by God and His apostles. I don't know of any law that states you must not jump from an airplane without a parachute. But it is strongly recommended by physics, common sense and a desire to live! :-) I do not believe that water baptism is a prerequisite for entry into God's favor, but on the other hand I believe we do injustice to the Word of God to consider water baptism 'optional' or 'inconsequential.' It is not a frill or token. Are we perfect upon knowing/ being known by Christ? Or, is there a subsequent walk, a growth, a washing, a purifying, a purging, a cleansing, a learning, a following, a perfecting in the Holy Spirit that brings us to the final work of sanctification, the resurrection of the dead unto eternal life? Is this walk our salvation? No! Is this walk inconsequential? No! My friend, please note that my viewpoint is not theory or philosophy, but practical experience with real people. Dealing strictly with hypotheticals, perfection IS acheived BY GOD in His unlimited timeframe. In our limited existence, I have yet to meet any individual that meets the 'description' of a perfected, saved soul. :-) Peace to you in Christ Jesus, charis |
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2 | What does baptism consist? | 1 John 5:6 | Makarios | 23347 | ||
Greetings charis! I do not totally agree with your analogy between 'water baptism/salvation' and 'no parachute/jumping out of a plane', but that is besides the point. I never said that water baptism is optional or something that should be taken "lightly". It is very important and something that we are commanded to do (Matt. 28:19, Acts 2:38). However, at the same time, water baptism is not a prerequisite that determines the eternal resting place of our souls and I am glad that you agree with me! Water baptism is something that every believer should do and it is supported by the Bible. It is a very special experience that publicly symbolizes the inner baptism of the Holy Spirit. We are brought to salvation when we have been apprehended by Jesus Christ, and this is where the baptism by the Holy Spirit occurs- at the moment of salvation. I never said that salvation is the END of our spiritual walk! It is only the beginning! And we are perfected in Him through the process of sanctification. However, our spiritual standing has now been changed forever since we are now in a perfect standing before God at the moment of salvation, by confessing our sins and receiving Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. (Acts 8:35-39) Granted, we are not "perfected" ourselves yet, but our STANDING before God is now "perfected", in that we have accepted the Lordship of Jesus Christ. My friend, I agree, perfection IS acheived by God in His unlimited timeframe, and He will perfect the work that He has started (Phil. 1:6, James 1:4). Blessings to you, Nolan |
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3 | What does baptism consist? | 1 John 5:6 | charis | 23382 | ||
Dear Nolan, Blessings in the name of Jesus! I agree with you when you agree with me that we agree on many things, disagree on a few things and are not totally in agreement on analogies. Don't you agree? (your turn!) :-) I think I agree that the parachute analogy is not perfect (a negative result rather than a positive one!), but you DO agree that jumping out of airplanes without parachutes, while not strictly forbidden, is probably not a good idea, right? Josh, jest, joke! :-) If we all agreed on every point, it would be a sure sign that that Lord has already returned! In Christ Jesus, charis |
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4 | What does baptism consist? | 1 John 5:6 | Makarios | 23460 | ||
Greetings charis! I think that we can both agree that we should not eat any Tanuki for Thanksgiving.. If you are agreeable with this, then it may be agreeable for us both to disagree on the amount of Turkey that we have, even though turkey hardly ever agrees with either one of us if we've had too much of it... Or is that, we don't agree with the turkey? Or Tanuki?? I give up!! :-) Have a happy Thanksgiving! And yes, we are not required to agree on everything! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Nolan |
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