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NASB | 1 John 5:6 This is the One who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and with the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 John 5:6 This is He who came through water and blood [His baptism and death], Jesus Christ--not by the water only, but by the water and the blood. It is the [Holy] Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. [He is the essence and origin of truth itself.] |
Subject: What does baptism consist? |
Bible Note: Dear Tim, (IN) Blessings in Jesus' name! Not once did I say, or have I ever said that faith plus works equals salvation. Honestly, that is incindiary and a bit unfair to me, and misrepresents what I said very clearly in my post. (crying 'foul' and rolling on the pitch :-)) I agree with you that this is not what James is speaking to us. But, at the same time, "faith works' does not mean very much to me. At least, not as much as what is clearly written, "faith without works is dead." I any case, I do not see that there is any difference in what you are trying to say, and what I tried to say, except maybe trivial semantics. So, in my (sometimes) humble opinion, we agree! :-) I am not sure, though, if YOU think we agree. (?) To clarify this point, do you believe we are 'perfected' at the moment of confession of/ apprehension by Jesus? Though this is a quaint theory, I have yet to see *observable* evidence of this assertion. Instead, I see abundant evidence that we 'grow in Christ.' (Ephesians 4:15, 2 Peter 3:18) Please carefully note that I truly and completely believe that the only 'minimum requirement' of salvation is faith toward God. Peace and love to you, my friend. In Christ Jesus, charis |