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1 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | lisakb | 129623 | ||
IS IT A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | ||||||
2 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | prayon | 129624 | ||
Greetings, Since there is no scripture that I know of I will tell you what I believe. I believe that it lays with the reason for the bankruptsy. Sometimes we get into a hardship because of something that was beyond our control - such as a medical problem, loss of a job, disability or other situations beyond our control. When those situations arise, if we have been good stewards of our finances I do not believe that it is a sin to file a bankruptsy. However if one is filing because of greed, carelessness or the like then I believe that we are responsible for our debts. I hope that helps. prayon | ||||||
3 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | Glory Bound | 129656 | ||
Actually, I believe there is scripture that deals with this topic in an indirect relation. i.e Rom 13:8 Of course, the word bankruptcy itself is not used, but this answer is in scripture and would take a great deal of sincere research by someone interested in the topic. The above scripture I noted is sort of on the negative side, but I am confident that there are just as many on the more positive side, such as the teachings of forgiveness and adherance to governmental law, and Neh 10:31 for one. GB |
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4 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | prayon | 129666 | ||
Greetings glory, I take it to mean that you think that it is against the bible But suppose one has been a good steward of their finances but something happens such as an accident or illness and they can no longer pay their debts - then what? prayon | ||||||
5 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | EdB | 129715 | ||
Prayon I know tragedy strikes and sometimes we find ourselves in situations beyond our control. However we made a promise to repay our debt and I think we still need to attempt to do that. Even if it means a dollar a month. Bankruptcy may be needed to protect you while you try to repay but I don't think any true Christian can believe they can just forget the debit and say they are walking in Jesus' admonishment to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I see "Christian" file bankruptcy and in a year to two live as they were before they filed. New cars, furniture, homes, new TV, cell phones, Cable TV, Call forwarding you name it. They completely ignore the fact they broke their word, and stuck someone with loss. We are told to let our yea’s be yea and our nay’s be nay, also we are known by our fruit. Our fruit should be more than broken promises, and ignored debts and financial chicanery. My daughter who I'm very proud of found herself in a mess. She is a single parent and was working as an RN with health insurance. She had some medical problems and ran up some enormous bills which her health insurance should have paid. However the health insurance company filed bankruptcy and left her hanging. She had two choices file bankruptcy herself or pay what she could. She went to each party involved and explained her situation. She then began to pay off each bill. I believe God honored that. Within five years while still paying a mortagage, and raising two teenage kids she got these bills paid. In many cases the people she owed money to when they saw her situation and her effort to repay forgave the debt and I beleived got blessed themselves. In other cases bills were reexamined and found to be wrong and she was told she owed far less than she thought. In other cases the company she owed money to, simply dissapeared and teh debt was wiped clean. I was God! If you ever saw her bills versus her income and other expenses and to know she has it all paid for, you would also know God honored her effort to do what was right. As you can tell I,m bursting with pride. I firmly and totally beleive God honors our efforts to what is right. It wasn't easy but with God all things are possible. EdB |
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6 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | Glory Bound | 129769 | ||
I love you dear brother. Your posts are inspiring. Please forgive me for saying this, but I hate it when I hear someone, particularly another Christian say "I don't think any true Christian can .... do this or that." I would ask the person who makes this statement, Are any of us perfect yet? Would you cast the first stone? Is it our responsibility to judge, or rather, to enlighten? I know that we are all guilty, but would'nt you agree that such a statement reeks of judgement and self righteousness? A loving reminder that we all need to consider from time to time. GB |
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7 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | EdB | 129775 | ||
GB I could very well be self righteousness but then again it could be a statement of fact. I know I often find it so easy to dismiss or justify my iniquities by claiming it conforms to my sin nature, however God did call us to holiness? Will I ever obtain a sinless life? No not this side of heaven but does that give me permission to stop trying to live sinless? I don’t think so. Will “real” Christians ever file bankruptcy? Absolutely! However the real question then becomes should they try to justify it and dismiss their action or should they try correct it in hopes of repaying what they promised to pay? Perhaps I should have said for anyone to do that would violate the precepts, statues, and commands Jesus gave us. Therefore for one to do such a thing would stand in opposition to Christ's teachings and I would think they would want to immediately correct the situation. EdB |
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8 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | Glory Bound | 129876 | ||
Hi Ed. I am sure it is a statement of fact that "you don't think any true Christian can .... do this or that." Yet, I sincerely doubt that either you or I have the authority to make such a judgment. Wanting to correct something, and having the ability to do so is often two different things. We can easily look at someone else and say this, but often we can't see the light till it is turned on in our presence. I agree with you, particularly concerning non conformity, but there is a nagging thought that bankruptcy is one of the laws of the land, agreed on and accepted by both the lender and the borrower. Don't get me wrong. I'm just pondering that nagging thought. GB |
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9 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | EdB | 129979 | ||
GB I totally agree we may be forced to file bankruptcy for protection, however I do not see that dismisses us from the moral obligation of making every effort to repay our debts. There is social or Governmental justice and there is moral justice. Christians have been called to a higher standard. Not one of us would want to lose a dime to someone that manipulated the legal system therefore if we truly do unto others as we would have them do unto us how can we declare Bankruptcy wash our hands of all our obligations and walk away singing Jesus lover me? I don’t think I being judgmental I just don’t see how anyone can reconcile those two action one that by every indication is direct opposition to how we would want to be treated. EdB |
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10 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | Glory Bound | 130065 | ||
I agree with you, but where does the moral obligation to forgive come in Ed? Likewise if we truly do unto others as we would have them do unto us, how can not understand and forgive the one who has no other option but to declare Bankruptcy, wash our hands of all our anger and walk away singing Jesus lover me? GB |
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11 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | EdB | 130082 | ||
GB We were talking about Christians declaring bankruptcy, not Christians that have someone declare bankruptcy on a loan they had made. First Christians really shouldn't be loaning money as such but if they do and get caught holding the bag then yes they must forgive. However that still does not remove the obligation from the lender to make every effort to repay. EdB |
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12 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | Emmaus | 130083 | ||
EdB, I am amazed that througout this whole discussion no one has mention the modern practice of usury and the fact that banks and retailers practically forced credit cards on people without worrying whether or not they are credit worth. During the pre-Christmas shopping period I am practically tackled at the entrances of department stores by people wanting to gicve me credit cards. And at the Colleges and Univertsities the students are bombarded in person and by mail with cedits cards and offers of credit cards.How does this happen when most of them have little or negligable income to pay back any credit card debt? The banks and credit card companies, Enron like, count the amount of their tuition as income! No, I am not joking! They really do that. Ah the wonders of creative American business accounting practices. My daighter calls my description of credicard debt as indentured servitude, "Lecture 44." She was advised that if she accepted a single credit card while in college, that I would cease all financial support. Emmaus |
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13 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | EdB | 130088 | ||
Emmaus I agree nothing appears to be sacred to the Credit card companies as they try any and all means to get you to take one of their cards. However being a "gun never killed anyone" type of guy. I don't think the problem is credit cards but rather problem is with the person using them. EdB |
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14 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | Emmaus | 130089 | ||
EdB, On the other hand we do not hand out guns indiscriminately to the youg and inaexperienced and untrained, except in criminal enterprises. And to do so is also civily negligent and actionable. The fact that Colleges and universities are often in collusion with the credit card companies, in exchange for a fee, in allowing them access to the campuses is also dispicable. They thus facititate financial promiscuity in the same way they facilitate sexual promiscuity with open co-ed dormitories. The college culture of death, debt and depravity. Deliver us from evil Oh Lord! Emmaus |
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15 | A SIN TO FILE BANKRUPTCY | 1 Pet 4:10 | EdB | 130090 | ||
Emmaus Good point!!!! Also I get credit card offers for cards from my old colleges. I won't name names but these are Bible Colleges sending out credit card offers or at least making their Alumni list available to the card company. EdB |
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