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1 | Hell and Heaven teaching at Old Testamen | Deut 32:22 | jlpangilinan | 18024 | ||
Hi everybody! This question was came from the doctrine of Jehovas Withnessess. I got some friend that belongs to this Religion. The Question are: Is Hell literal? it is really the place for everlasting damnation. If is literal why there are no clear teaching about this in Old Testament? If you read the teaching of Moses I dont think he mentioned to the Isralites that if they committed sin there soul will punish in the burning hell? Do you think its fair that people belong to the time of Old Testament doesnt know about this, and now We, at the time of Jesus Christ received teaching about this. Hell derived from the Saxon helan, to cover; hence the covered or the invisible place. In Scripture there are three words so rendered: (1.) Sheol, occurring in the Old Testament sixty-five times. This word sheol is derived from a root-word meaning "to ask," "demand;" hence insatiableness (Pr 30:15-16). It is rendered "grave" thirty-one times (Ge 37:35; 42:38; 44:29,31; 1Sa 2:6, etc.). The Revisers have retained this rendering in the historical books with the original word in the margin, while in the poetical books they have reversed this rule. In thirty-one cases in the Authorized Version this word is rendered "hell," the place of disembodied spirits. The inhabitants of sheol are "the congregation of the dead" (Pr 21:16). It is (a) the abode of the wicked (Nu 16:33; Job 24:19; Ps 9:17; 31:17, etc.); (b) of the good (Ps 16:10; 30:3; 49:15; 86:13, etc.). Sheol is described as deep (Job 11:8), dark (Job 10:21-22), with bars (Job 17:16). The dead "go down" to it (Nu 16:30,33; Eze 31:15-16,17). (2.) The Greek word hades of the New Testament has the same scope of signification as sheol of the Old Testament. It is a prison (1Pe 3:19), with gates and bars and locks (Mt 16:18; Re 1:18), and it is downward (Mt 11:23; Lu 10:15). The righteous and the wicked are separated. The blessed dead are in that part of hades called paradise (Lu 23:43). They are also said to be in Abraham's bosom (Lu 16:22). (3.) Gehenna, in most of its occurrences in the Greek New Testament, designates the place of the lost (Mt 23:33). The fearful nature of their condition there is described in various figurative expressions (Mt 8:12; 13:42; 22:13; 25:30; Lu 16:24, etc.). The same as Heaven is there any heaven promised to Adam and Eve or to Noah? Is Moses has a teaching that the Soul of Isralites will someday go to heaven? Why they have no knowledge of this? now we at the time of Jesus Christ received a promises that we will be with Him at His Father House (John 14:2) |
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2 | Hell and Heaven teaching at Old Testamen | Deut 32:22 | EdB | 18266 | ||
Hi jlpangilinan The doctrine of future punishment is not prominent in the Old Testament, where rewards and punishments are chiefly connected with the present life. In a few passages (Psalm 49:14-15; Psalm 73:18-19; compare Isaiah 24:21-22; Isaiah 66:24), Dr. Charles (who wrote A Critical History of the Doctrine of a Future Life in Israel, in Judaism, and in Christianity) thinks that "Sheol appears as the place of punishment of the wicked". If so, there is no suggestion of escape from it. In Daniel 12:2, some that sleep in the dust are represented as awaking to "shame and everlasting contempt" (the word for "everlasting" is the usual one, olam). In the Jewish literature of the century before Christ, "Sheol is regarded," says Dr. Charles, "as the place of final eternal punishment, that is, it has become hell". Taken from ISBE EdB |
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3 | Eternal fire | Deut 32:22 | jlpangilinan | 18771 | ||
Thanks You mentioned that it is not prominent (meaning it is not important) in the Old testament why? do you think it is not unjust to them that they are not educated about this (Hell or Heaven) and now in our time received promises that we can go to heaven if we observe the teaching of Jesus Christ, and or if we committed sins (mortal sins) our souls will be tormented in hell day and night. In the book genesis what God said to adam, Ge 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. We granted for a while, that adam will go to hell, do you think in is unjust to him that God will brought him to the kind of punishment. Adam has no idea about hell or heaven. If God will bring those people to the punishment that they don’t know or He did not gave warning about this punishment I think it will be unjust. You also mentioned the eternal punishment. In the book of Jude Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. I would like to focus to the word "eternal" that particular verse that I quoted it mentioned the "eternal" fire of sodom. I know that you would agree that the fire of sodom are not that there anymore. But the bible says "Eternal Fire of Sodom". I hope you would explain my points. Johnny |
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4 | Eternal fire | Deut 32:22 | EdB | 18789 | ||
Johnny I don’t think it is a matter of fairness, I think it is more a matter of what would be comprehended by the people of the time and what was recorded in Bible of what took place. Also the use of the word prominent does not mean it was not important. In the Old Testament the matter of righteousness was dealt with more immediate results, if you were righteous or unrighteous you opened yourself to the blessings and curses found throughout the Pentateuch. That is not to say the Old Testament people did not understand the resurrection or the importance of a redeemer (Messiah). All through the Old Testament we see the writers tell about the promised redeemer. Upon death the righteous who died before Christ went to Abraham’s Bosom. This is where Christ upon His death went and preached the Good News and lead captivity captive (took them to heaven). As to your particular reference in Ge. 3:19 We do not know the total of what God said to Adam and Eve just what was documented. God and Adam before the fall walked together in the garden they must have had some conversation yet it is not documented. God gave Adam and Eve a glimpse of the Messiah in Gen 3:15. Also after the fall we see where Cain and Abel went to offer sacrifices this apparently was explained to them as dealing with their worship of God and their redemption. Did Adam know about Hell? I can’t answer that. But God has declared Himself just and He can not lie so I think that there had to be some sort of provision for that matter. As to the Jude 7 issue let’s read what it really says "Jude 1:7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire." First it is not talking about the fire that destroyed the city but rather the fire (as in the lake of fire Revelation 20:15) that the unrighteous commended themselves to. Secondly the people that committed those heinous sins knew exactly what they were doing, notice they did it under the cover of night. Lot knew the evil of it, tried to talk them out of it. While hell was not talked about in the Old Testament the idea evidently had been conveyed and the righteous served God looking for their redemption, the unrighteous lived a life as they saw fit believing it would not happen to them. I hope this answers your questions. EdB |
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