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1 | Hell and Heaven teaching at Old Testamen | Deut 32:22 | jlpangilinan | 18024 | ||
Hi everybody! This question was came from the doctrine of Jehovas Withnessess. I got some friend that belongs to this Religion. The Question are: Is Hell literal? it is really the place for everlasting damnation. If is literal why there are no clear teaching about this in Old Testament? If you read the teaching of Moses I dont think he mentioned to the Isralites that if they committed sin there soul will punish in the burning hell? Do you think its fair that people belong to the time of Old Testament doesnt know about this, and now We, at the time of Jesus Christ received teaching about this. Hell derived from the Saxon helan, to cover; hence the covered or the invisible place. In Scripture there are three words so rendered: (1.) Sheol, occurring in the Old Testament sixty-five times. This word sheol is derived from a root-word meaning "to ask," "demand;" hence insatiableness (Pr 30:15-16). It is rendered "grave" thirty-one times (Ge 37:35; 42:38; 44:29,31; 1Sa 2:6, etc.). The Revisers have retained this rendering in the historical books with the original word in the margin, while in the poetical books they have reversed this rule. In thirty-one cases in the Authorized Version this word is rendered "hell," the place of disembodied spirits. The inhabitants of sheol are "the congregation of the dead" (Pr 21:16). It is (a) the abode of the wicked (Nu 16:33; Job 24:19; Ps 9:17; 31:17, etc.); (b) of the good (Ps 16:10; 30:3; 49:15; 86:13, etc.). Sheol is described as deep (Job 11:8), dark (Job 10:21-22), with bars (Job 17:16). The dead "go down" to it (Nu 16:30,33; Eze 31:15-16,17). (2.) The Greek word hades of the New Testament has the same scope of signification as sheol of the Old Testament. It is a prison (1Pe 3:19), with gates and bars and locks (Mt 16:18; Re 1:18), and it is downward (Mt 11:23; Lu 10:15). The righteous and the wicked are separated. The blessed dead are in that part of hades called paradise (Lu 23:43). They are also said to be in Abraham's bosom (Lu 16:22). (3.) Gehenna, in most of its occurrences in the Greek New Testament, designates the place of the lost (Mt 23:33). The fearful nature of their condition there is described in various figurative expressions (Mt 8:12; 13:42; 22:13; 25:30; Lu 16:24, etc.). The same as Heaven is there any heaven promised to Adam and Eve or to Noah? Is Moses has a teaching that the Soul of Isralites will someday go to heaven? Why they have no knowledge of this? now we at the time of Jesus Christ received a promises that we will be with Him at His Father House (John 14:2) |
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2 | Hell and Heaven teaching at Old Testamen | Deut 32:22 | Searcher56 | 18025 | ||
This verse is clear to me. Some translate it Hell. Job 11:8 contains both Hell and Heaven. Psa 9:17, 16:10, 55:15; Pro 9:18 are a few more verses in the OT. Steve | ||||||
3 | Teaching about hell in the Old testament | Deut 32:22 | jlpangilinan | 18188 | ||
You right, But what I really mean is do we have in the old testament a teaching that really will make people belong to that time will knowledgeable enough about hell or heaven. Do we have in the Old testament or any teaching of Moses that will include promises that the souls of thoses people will someday go to heaven, do moises taught his people that if they committed sin they will be punish in the eternal fire. I know that in old testament to many passages mentioned hell, like for instance from the book job or even David mentioned those also. If in the Old Testament wwe have no teaching regarding this, I think it is unjust for them. (im not questioning the God here)If im not mistaken the promises given to the people of Israel was the promise land. I hope somebody can answer this. Johnny |
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4 | Teaching about hell in the Old testament | Deut 32:22 | Lanny | 18209 | ||
The old testament teaches the same thing about sin as the new testament with the same outcome. The biggest deceiver and false doctrine in this world today is the you must sin doctrine. St. John 5:14 and 8:11 clearly states sin no more. Jesus would not command someone to do something that they were not capable of doing. This would be unjust. Also Jesus came to save his people from their sins, not in them, Matthew 1:21. Most want to give the devil more credit than God. They feel that the devil is able to put you in sin and that God is unable to deliver you out of sin. TOTALLY FALSE. We must live holy lives which without no man shall see the Lord. Hebrews 12:14. Look up the word holiness in the dictionary. 1 John 3 is an excellent chapter. How can anyone look past this and think that they can sin and go to heaven. And as it says here " let NO man deceive you". It's not unjust for them to go to hell for sinning and it is not unjust for us. If God were to let us get away with sin then it would be unjust. As for Moses laws please refer to St John 5:46-47 and Matthew 5:17. Nowhere in the Bible, new or old testament, do I see that we can live in sin and go to heaven. I hope that this helps. Lanny | ||||||
5 | Sinless perfection possible? | Deut 32:22 | Reformer Joe | 18213 | ||
Lanny: I don't think we have interacted before on the Forum. If you are new, welcome aboard. If I understand you correctly, you seem to be saying that sinlessness is attainable by humanity in this life. Have you attained sinlessness, and if so, how? --Joe! |
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6 | Sinless perfection possible? | Deut 32:22 | Sir Pent | 18259 | ||
There is already a thread from a long time ago on this subject (Entire Sanctification), and it does not appear to be directly relevant to the original question of this thread. Would Reformer Joe and Lanny mind continuing this discussion on this other thread intstead? | ||||||