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1 | Is God ONE or is God THREE? | James 2:19 | Morant61 | 37596 | ||
Greetings Tim! Thanks for the response my friend! Modalism is basically what you seem to believe, but I won't press the term if you don't want! :-) My concern about your definitions centers on the relationship between the Father and the Son on the cross. My understanding of Scripture, as you have also alluded to in other posts, is that Jesus is God incarnate - God in the flesh. And, in Him the fulness of the Godhead dwells bodily (Col. 2:9). However, in your definition, it almost sounds like Jesus is just the vessel and the Spirit of God simply inhabits the vessel. Then, before the death of the cross, the Spirit of God leaves the body of Jesus. If this is what you are saying, then who died? How could God be the sacrifice if He wasn't present in the death? Regardless of one's position on the Trinity, Scripture is clear that Jesus is fully God, not just a man inhabited by God's Spirit. Thus, God incarnate did indeed die on the cross. If I'm misunderstanding your position, please let me know! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Is God ONE or is God THREE? | James 2:19 | 10ECPreacher | 37605 | ||
Greetings yet again, fellow Tim! In discussions like these, it behooves us to articulate our positions precisely and concisely. I think some of your misunderstanding of my position is due to the fact that I haven't stated it clearly enough. Sorry about that. I refer to the term "Son" as the body or house of God. (John 1:14 -- the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us.) I agree that Jesus is fully God, not just a man inhabited by God's Spirit; but He also was fully man. I think the misunderstanding involves your statement "Then, before the death of the cross, the Spirit of God leaves the body of Jesus." I don't believe that the Spirit of God remained in Jesus after He died, and I know that the Spirit of God did not die. Jesus died as a man; Jesus raised His dead body from the grave as God. This shows the dual nature of Jesus Christ. I believe the sacrifice for sins was the Body He prepared--sinless, pure, separate from sinners. The Lamb of God was the Son of God. I would probably say the incarnation of God died on the cross, as opposed to God incarnate. They may mean the same thing, but I do not want to imply that God died on the cross. If God dies, we're all in trouble. :) I must hurry off, but I shall return and make sure that I haven't mislead you again. Kind regards, Tim D. Cormier Tennessee Preacher |
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3 | Is God ONE or is God THREE? | James 2:19 | Morant61 | 37608 | ||
Greetings Tim! Thanks for the clarification! From what you are saying, I think I was correct in my understanding of your statement. If I'm understanding your position correctly, then God didn't die for us. So, who did? Jesus was more than just a body or a vessel. He was fully God and fully man. However, if you seperate the His divine nature from the death, then you end up with just a man dying, not God. Further, where is the Scriptural support for saying that part of His nature died, but part left? On a serious note, you wouldn't happen to be a Titans fan would you? ;-) My team, the Colts, are going to be a part of the Titan's division next year. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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