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1 | Impossible to renew to repentance? | Heb 6:6 | Lifer1J511 | 3595 | ||
Does anyone have good insight into the meaning of this passage? It seems to suggest that if you hear the truth of the gospel, and then reject it, you will never be given another opportunity. But that conclusion seems to condradict a God who is long-suffering and not willing that any should perish. I intended for the scripture reference to show verse 4,5 and 6 but couldn't find a way to make it list all 3 verses. Thanks, fellow Bereans. | ||||||
2 | Impossible to renew to repentance? | Heb 6:6 | KBurgee | 3597 | ||
To know the gospel and not believe it is the one unpardonable sin. It's one thing to give in to sin; yet ask for forgiveness and believe that God will deliver you from it. It's totally another to actually KNOW about God, THEN openly diss Him, believing what you say. Satan knew God, but it didn't stop him from attempting a heavenly coup d'etat, which God smacked down with His coup de grace (or is it coup DISgrace? Coup DISS grace? Sorry, having fun with words, hehe) Once you are led to Christ, once you hear the gospel, if you still continue to disbelieve and reject Him, what makes you think you deserve get another shot? If you reject Him now when He shows His power and glory, what's to stop you from rejecting Him later? If that doesn't convince you, then basically nothing will. It takes a lot to first confess to know that Jesus died for your sins, then say "Naw, this ain't real. He didn't die and come back; this is garbage". God shows mercy and unlimited patience with those who know that He is God. He does not want to see any of His children perish. But to openly and outright reject God and believe it after knowing about Him is unforgivable. To know the truth and say it's whacked is the sure method to get a one-way ticket to that smelting pool we call Hell. |
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3 | Partakers of the Holy Spirit? | Heb 6:6 | Lifer1J511 | 3599 | ||
Thanks for the response. I agree with your view of someone coming to God 'intellectually,' then saying, "No thanks." But, it says in this passage that they (the ones who can't be brought back to repentance) were 'partakers in the Holy Spirit.' This seems to imply that they had the Holy Spirit in them, which can't happen unless you've become a Christian. So, I HATE to ask this, is this a verse supporting 'conditional salvation?' How can someone be a partaker of the Holy Spirit and then say, "No thanks." Does the Greek text help here any? | ||||||
4 | Partakers of the Holy Spirit? | Heb 6:6 | KBurgee | 3602 | ||
Wow, this is a great topic! I never realized how difficult this really is. But that's good! True knowledge isn't always easy, hehe. Paul isn't speaking about a certainty; this is a hypothetical situation. Some people (thanx, study Bible!) who do not believe in "eternal security" who believe in "conditional salvation" think that the passage refers to people who fall away from the faith; others think that these people weren't fully Christians (I don't understand that; either you accept or you don't, unless we're talking maturity levels in Christ), and that other verses teach eternal security. If there were an actual documented case of criticizing God after accepting Him, I'd like to know. Check out John 5:24 and 6:37; Romans 8:1; Hebrews 8:12. Personally? Changing someone's heart is difficult. I don't understand how anyone can reject God after being in His spirit, unless they are really, really, bad? Who wants to taste and see that the Lord is good, then go back to eating trash? The only example I have is Satan. He was a partaker of the spirit (shoot, he was God's praise director! How do you NOT know?), yet openly defied God with his act. As a result, he can never be (nor does he deserve to be) saved. Hope they help. I'd love to learn more about this as well. K |
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5 | Partakers of the Holy Spirit? | Heb 6:6 | KBurgee | 3604 | ||
Sorry. Forgot to mention that it was THE AUTHOR making this a hypothetical situation, and NOT Paul. I apologize for the mixup. | ||||||
6 | Fallen 'Partakers of the Holy Spirit?' | Heb 6:6 | Lifer1J511 | 3609 | ||
Thanks again for your response. I appreciate it. I'm studying it further. In the meantime, I'm going to reask the question so that it will come back up in the question queue and others will (hopefully) answer. OK, all you NASB Greek scholars out there (you know who you are), who are these 'partakers of the Holy Spirit that fall from grace and can't be brought back to repentance? | ||||||
7 | Fallen 'Partakers of the Holy Spirit?' | Heb 6:6 | RCSCROLL | 3669 | ||
For it is impossible.To come back into the body of Christ, for once in his hand you cannot come out.Christs sacrifice is once and for all you cant put him back on the cross. The first time you entered into a realationship with him was for all time,if your truly saved. This is for believers they cant come to their original repentence for thats been done , however they can come back into realationship. buy asking foregivness of their sin, he is sure and just and will forgive us our sin. where does it say that they had fallen from grace. We never did anything to obtain it , and theres nothing we can do to maintain it, thats works. love in Christ RCScroll | ||||||
8 | Fallen 'Partakers of the Holy Spirit?' | Heb 6:6 | RCSCROLL | 3670 | ||
May I add that the hebrews were so use to sacrifices , that when they sinned they wanted to go back to the sacrificial alter with an offering,the writer of hebrews is telling them that once was enough, that there was no more sacrifices for sins,it is impossible to renew again ,its been done. just reread HEB 6:1-3 and stay in the context of the teaching.love RCScroll | ||||||