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1 | Lost my salvation? (Hebrews 6:4-6) | Heb 6:4 | JohnK | 17812 | ||
I have read many of the responses to the question of Hebrews 6:4-6. It seems to be a difficult, and frightening idea that a believer can fall from grace to the point of never being able to come back to salvation. But consider this: When Peter denied Christ 3 times, didn't he fall under the Hebrews 6:4-6 passage? If not, then would you say that the 3 deliberate denials were just simply 3 sins and not a falling away? Or how about when Peter (Matt 18:21-22) asked Christ, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?" Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven" So, what is exactly being said in Hebrews 6:4? Is it my own wishful thinking that says I can still be saved? You see, I truly beleived I was saved at one point, but slowly I drifted away from the Lord. My prayers became farther and farther between, and I eventually stopped reading the bible, and I fell back into my old sins. But several years later, I feel the honest need and desire to be close to the Lord again. I pray that I will never fall away again. But does this mean that I can never come back to the Lord again as stated in Hebrews 6:4-6? I do keep in mind what the Lord said, (Mark 3:28) Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter..." But I am still frightened. To be honest, I feel sick every time I read the book of Hebrews. No matter how much assurance I get from other passages in the bible, I am scared. It is good to be afraid of God, but not like this. I want to be happy that I have salvation, but the idea of being damned for eternity is to much to handle. What should I think? |
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2 | Lost my salvation? (Hebrews 6:4-6) | Heb 6:4 | Morant61 | 17813 | ||
Greetings JohnK! I understand your concern, but you need not be paralyzed with fear. There are two possible ways of looking at this passage, and neither one means that you are hopelessly lost. 1) Calvinistic Perspective: This view says that the passage is not talking about Christians. Therefore, the warning is not for you. 2) Arminian Perspective: This view says that Christians are addressed, but it is Christians who have "WILLFULLY" rejected Christ with full knowledge of what they were doing. Again, this would not apply to your circumstance. The basic context (I write from an Arminian perspective) is a group of Jewish believers who were seriously shaken in their faith because of persecution (see chap. 10 especially). They were seriously thinking of going back to Judaism. The writer of Hebrews, throughout the book, makes one simple point. Salvation is found in Christ alone, if you turn from Christ, there is not salvation. You and Peter both failed Christ, but you never rejected Christ. Peter was freely accepted by Christ, so are you my friend. Someone wrote earlier something to the effect that "it is those who are not worried about their relationship with Christ who need to be worried." I would agree. You may have failed, but you never rejected Him and you still desire to grow in grace. The message of Scripture to you is that "nothing can take you out of His hand." Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Lost my salvation? (Hebrews 6:4-6) | Heb 6:4 | Reformer Joe | 17824 | ||
Just as a side note, the Calvinists will debate the precise meaning of this passage, but most like me will characterize those being addressed as those who are APPARENTLY Christians, but who do not persevere until the end. The Reformed believe in "once saved, always saved," but in the sense that all of those whom God has regenerated will be preserved to stand firm in their faith until the end (perseverence of the saints). That is not to say that they will not falter in their faith, or that they will not sin, but that no one truly saved will ever finally and fully reject the faith. "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, whoaccording to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to obtain an inheritance which is imperishable and undefiled and will not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time." --1 Peter 1:3-5 --Joe! |
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4 | Lost my salvation? (Hebrews 6:4-6) | Heb 6:4 | onnig | 17829 | ||
Amen Joe!! Tim, remember the parable of the sower? That is what applies to you. Where do you stand? I've pasted Jesus' explanation of these passages for your convenience: Matt 13:19 "When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is the one on whom seed was sown beside the road. Matt 13:20 "The one on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, this is the man who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; Matt 13:22 "And the one on whom seed was sown among the thorns, this is the man who hears the word, and the worry of the world and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful. Matt 13:23 "And the one on whom seed was sown on the good soil, this is the man who hears the word and understands it; who indeed bears fruit and brings forth, some a hundredfold, some sixty, and some thirty." Do you truly love the Lord Jesus Christ? If so, then as a soldier of Christ, you WILL BE wounded just like all of us. Those wounds are either self-inflicted or inflicted by the devil. I'm not speaking about physical wounds but spiritual ones that affect your conscience. But get back up and fight the good fight. Keep away from temptations, like the Apostle James said, "Resist the devil and he will flee from you." James 4:7. We all are proned to certain sins, we have to stay away from those sins that can master us, and of course all sins generally. Don't ever forget what the Apostle Paul said, Romans 8:38-39 "For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Notice he said "any other created thing", guess what, that even includes you!! You cannot even remove YOURSELF from God's hand if you are truly His. So praise God that He always keeps His promises, and continue in advancing His kingdom. Stop worrying about your problems and begin to serve the body of Christ. You will find real fulfillment there. In Christ, Onnig |
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5 | Lost my salvation? (Hebrews 6:4-6) | Heb 6:4 | Morant61 | 17837 | ||
Greetings Onnig! I think you were responding to John! But, I say "Amen" to your comments! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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