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1 | What is a repentance from dead works? | Heb 6:1 | Rowdy | 133639 | ||
I think I can agree with some of what you're saying. Please read on. "So, we mustn't think that we need our filthy rags, but we do in fact need them? What does God need our filthy rags for? :-)" In this situation, God DOESN'T need them. He has no needs whatsoever for He's God BUT we NEED to do them for our benefit. You might say it's beneficial to us in the same manner as our prayers. Here again, God doesn't need our prayers as He knows our needs AND our wants before we do. BUT we're commanded to "pray without ceasing." In both cases our prayers and our works of faith help us keep our focus on God just like Peter discovered while walking on water. "Eph. 2:8-9 doesn't say that we are saved by works done in the proper attitude." James 2 on the other hand does make it clear that "faith without works is dead" and thus worthless to both us and to God. "Nor does James 2 talk about works done with a proper attidute. The individuals in James 2 were claiming to have faith and did not need to demonstrate any works. James was showing them that real faith 'works', thus they did not have real faith. "Thus, 'works' are the result and evidence of faith, not the basis of salvation." This is the only item with which I can agree in part. Yes indeed our works should be thought of by us as being proof of our faith. But notice the reverse is also true. If we have no works to look back on how can we say we have true and genuine faith for the devil himself believes in God and yet continues to disobey? If we can't lay claim to ANY acts of obedience, how can we claim to love God or our fellow man? So, yes, I agree with you, works is most certainly NOT the basis of salvation as the ONLY foundation for salvation MUST be Jesus Christ, He alone and the Grace of God, His Father and ours. I guess you might compare this Grace and our works as a marriage. One can't be married to another human being WITHOUT accepting the idea that there may come some days of trial and difficulties but the couple stays married regardless for that's God's Will. In the same way, when we become children of God, that automatically means we agree to bear the costs as Christ suggests in his parable AND we MUST bear our own cross of submission to His Will as he commanded. We can't have one (Grace) on the one hand and NOT have the other (acts of obedience). God DEMANDS real and genuine faith and I'm afraid He's going to be looking for our proofs of that faith on Judgment Day. How do you anticipate that God is going to distinguish between christians and other sinners on the Day? I hope this helps to clarify. God bless. Rowdy |
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2 | What is a repentance from dead works? | Heb 6:1 | Morant61 | 133654 | ||
Greetings Rowdy! You asked: "How do you anticipate that God is going to distinguish between christians and other sinners on the Day?" John 3:18 tells us exactly how He will distinguish between Christians and sinners: "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son." Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | What is a repentance from dead works? | Heb 6:1 | Rowdy | 133664 | ||
Yes, I agree with this and all the other verses but getting to the rub, "where the rubber meets the road," how will this be done? In other words, in strict compliance with this verse and all the others, the devil himself is going to Heaven. How will God distinguish and keep him along with all his followers out of Heaven? Please advise and God bless. Rowdy |
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4 | What is a repentance from dead works? | Heb 6:1 | Morant61 | 133696 | ||
Greetings Rowdy! My friend, this is going to be my last post on this subject with you. Steve's posted answered your question Scripturally, but you ingnored it. I have answered your questions Scripturally, but you have ignored it. James 2:19 does not say the same thing as John 3:18! James 2:19 says that demons belive that there IS ONE GOD. It does not say that the demons 'believe' (place their faith) in Jesus. I have pointed this out before, but you ignored that post as well. In fact, you didn't even respond to that point. The demons believe a fact about God. To equate James 2:19 with John 3:18 is silly. But, on the basis of this, you would have us ignore the many verses that clearly say that if 'one believes' one is saved. :-( So, there really isn't any point in continuing this discussion my friend! Hopefully, we will be able to discuss other issues in the future. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | What is a repentance from dead works? | Heb 6:1 | Ray | 144267 | ||
Hi Tim, You said that to equate James 2:19 with John 3:18 is silly. I see them as good companion verses because if you believe in the name of the Son of God you realize that He and God are one. From the heart, Ray |
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