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1 | SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH | 2 Tim 2:25 | BradK | 155955 | ||
Dear Bows, Thank you for sharing and better explaining your view. I respectfully, still do not agree:-) Web surfing is not a Biblical topic to begin with, so it may not be the best example:-) My concerns are threefold: 1. The preaching about the Person and work of our Lord Jesus Christ is largely negated in the world of WOF teaching. Experience is king, anything goes, no matter how far-fetched, but Jesus Christ is minimized.( 2 Cor. 4:5) Bizarre practices don't need to be had to know the Lord or enter into a relationship with Him (Phil. 3:10); 2. It is a stretch to validate "being slain in the spirit" upon 4 verses of scripture! Particularly problematic is that 3 of these verses are OT and are not given for the purpose of proscribing this type of "phenomenom" for believers! They were to Israel first. Further, the NT Gospels are absent of this practice. I find it also noteworthy that Paul ,who wrote half the NT epistles is silent on this matter. 3. Experienced-based theology is dangerous because of it's highly subjective nature! Plaes don't hear what I'm not saying: I do not negate that God is sovereign or that He does not or cannot heal. He both can and does! (Ps. 115:30) What is most bothersome is when experience trumps scripture, or the experience is sought and then one attempts to find biblical support for it. Note in Rom. 4:3, in accord with Scripture that "Abraham believed God", not that he "experienced God",or "felt the presence of God". It's not that I think you'll accept what I'm saying, because I'm most certain you'll not. Experience is a very poor substitute for the authority of Gods' Word. Its' either true or its' not. It doesn't need my or your experience to validate it. That is the error of "proof-texting". Bows, in answer to you when you ask, "show me in scripture where God says he no longer allows us to experience his Glory or speak to us personally", He's not desiring us to seek some supernatural phenomena. God is glorified in and through me and He speaks to me through His Word ( Heb. 1:2) I still remain... Speaking the Truth In Love, BradK |
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2 | SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH | 2 Tim 2:25 | Bows44 | 155985 | ||
Dear BradK, In response to this concern... 1. The preaching about the Person and work of our Lord Jesus Christ is largely negated in the world of WOF teaching. Experience is king, anything goes, no matter how far-fetched, but Jesus Christ is minimized.( 2 Cor. 4:5) Bizarre practices don't need to be had to know the Lord or enter into a relationship with Him (Phil. 3:10); it took me awhile to figure out what you meant by WOF, but I think you mean word of faith. IF this is correct, your accusation is totally false. The very basic foundation of the word of faith movement is Jesus Christ. It is because of what He did for us on Calvary that we have anything today...salvation, healing, deliverence, favor with God, redemption from the curse, etc. Whatever is not of faith is sin it says in Romans 14:23. Granted many have abused and/or misused the word of faith movement turning it into a selfish give-me-what-I-want-God kind of thing. This is demonic twisting of the truth. But that doesn't mean that the principle has been negated. It is very sad when big name preachers fall from grace, but we are not their judge. We must humble ourselves and pray for their restoration, not reject them and their entire teachings. If the teachings are what you disagree with, then let's discuss them (the teachings, not the people) one at a time to see whether they are scriptural or not. But please don't reject truth just because somebody who teaches it messes up. Trying my best to speak the truth in love, Bows44 |
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