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1 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | skccab | 208124 | ||
Shalom y'all, The little discussion we had going earlier about lying got me to thinking about this particular scene in Gen. 3:3 when Eve said to the serpent that God said not to even touch the fruit. We know that God created everything perfect, nothing was flawed, so I don't think it could be she was confused or forgetful (after all there wasn't a whole lot to remember, just don't eat from that tree over there, how hard is that?) And she hadn't eaten the fruit yet, so sin has not yet entered the picture. Her spirit was still alive and well. How did she know to lie since that would come with the knowledge of good and evil from the forbidden tree? (I do realize that Adam could have told her that, but then the only change would be how did Adam know to lie?) Does anyone have any thoughts on this, or better yet, done some study on it? Just thinking :-) Cheri |
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2 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | Seeker888 | 208160 | ||
Hello. Maybe the fact that she changed the command shows that she had already lost the knowledge of God and his command. Perhaps this indicates that sin had already entered the picture before the fruit was even eaten. The eating of the fruit was an outward sign of an inward reality. This might push us to recognize sin at its root level first and then the fruit level secondarily (the way it comes out). So we can see a misunderstanding on her part in this response and furthermore in both Adam and Eve in the fact that they accepted the serpents argument about not surely dying, but that they could become like God. Another potential problem with this idea that they could not do evil because they hadn't eaten of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is that if this was the case, how could they be held accountable for eating of the tree? They wouldn't have known this was bad or good right? This would come after they ate right? So this would render the original command to not eat as an arbitrary command. Therefore, if man was to be held accountable for his action, he must have been able to know what was good and what was evil. This should push us to consider how we can have this knowledge and show that it is clear. |
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3 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | humbledbyhisgrace | 208162 | ||
Seeker, Welcome to the Study Bible Forum! On your point about the command being an arbitrary command. Well, let's not forget who's command it was. The fact they disobeyed this command you call arbitrary is clearly taught as the fall of mankind. (Genesis 3:6-7) You say "Another potential problem with this idea that they could not do evil because they hadn't eaten of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is that if this was the case, how could they be held accountable for eating of the tree?" Your assumption is they have to know what is good and evil before they know to obey. God had told them not to, there is no scripture to point to that would give us any reason at all to think they did not understand that they were not to. Mankind is not held accountable because he knows the difference between good and evil. He is held accountable when he does not obey! The simple fact we now know the difference between good and evil is a direct result of man not obeying the absolute command of God (again, Genesis 3:6-7) God's commands are never arbitrary. They are clear and He expects full compliance! Steve |
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4 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | Seeker888 | 208215 | ||
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