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1 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Morant61 | 207953 | ||
Greetings Cheri! You wrote: " BUT if telling the truth would bring about the death of an innocent person - then unfortunatly the human person (you or myself) is put into a situation where whichever route we take is wrong and a sin. Where in God's Word does it say that it is wrong to tell the truth? Where in God's Word does it say that it is wrong to trust God? Do we really believe that God's arm is so short that He cannot save? I have been amazed as I have read many of these responses to this question that no one seems to believe that God is able to deliver except through our lies? We are called to be holy even as He is holy! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | bowler | 207971 | ||
Tim Moran The isssue is not whether or not God will deliver and trusting Him. The issue is that He does not always choose to as is shown by scripture to be true, and in cases such as those what would we have done? God does not deliver us from every single situation, He often calls us to make hard decisions and does not provide a way out. The concept is not why we should condone sin, the concept is as Jesus was showing the Pharisees that their concept of law keeping was flawed and that they would seek to do that which was more right in a dire situation, that we may be called upon to do the same thing. Steve said something intereseting. He said that Jesus was showing the Pharisees that to save a life by exertion on the (paraphrasing) Sabbath was not breaking the law, it was right to do. Now technically they would have to break the Sabbath to save the life, but according to Jesus it is no longer wrong to do. I think perhaps God has never placed you and some others in a situation where you did not have any options that were good and there was no time left to wait it out to see if God would deliver. Immediate death of someone else may not wait for you to hear or see from God, then what do you do? God's will is good, and complete and holy, but He promised us suffering, not good times. We are never going to be as holy as God, or as holy as we would like to be, we strive for that. Look again at David, he was a man after God's own heart who did a lot of things besides his two major sins to survive, and you never hear of God saying that was wrong David, only on the two great sins. Just a thought. blessings abound, bowler |
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3 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Hank | 207976 | ||
bowler :: I know the hour is late and perhaps I nodded off for a moment, but in reading your post, I was taken back in my reverie to the time years ago when I read Erskine Caldwell's novel, "God's Little Acre." Written in the 1930s, it is the story of a Georgia dirt farmer named Ty Ty Walden and his family. They lived off the land. In good years they got by but in bad years they suffered enormously. It was during one of the bad years when a severe drought threatened to wipe out all of Ty Ty's crops that he went alone out into the middle of his sun-scorched fields and, in his own clumsy way, began to pray. As I recall the prayer, it went something like this: "Now God, you know we need rain and we need it bad. I've been patient with you but I'm here to tell you my patience is running out. We need rain today, but I'm willing to give you until tomorrow to do something, and if you don't, well, I'm going to have to take matters into my own hands. Amen." ...... When you said in your post about one being placed in a situation in which there were no good options and no time left to wait it out to see whether God would deliver -- this was so close to Ty Ty's prayer in the parched field that it evoked a virtual deja vu in my mind. ..... But neither Ty Ty's prayer nor your post said much about the providence of God. And were you unable to find anything in Scripture that would corroborate some of your statements, especially those in the second paragraph of your post? --Hank | ||||||
4 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | bowler | 207977 | ||
Hank Yeah it is late. Things to do. Here is that link I keep on yammering on about. http://gospelpedlar.com/articles/God/god_evil.html I appreciate your concerns and I hear you about Ty Ty's prayer. I still would like to know from anyone, what their take is on David, Jonathon, Rahab and why no one including God had anything to say to them about them lying to save lives as if that were bad. Plenty here say something about that, but the Bible is strangely silent about it as if it were some how a non issue in the face of what they did to save lives. God does not deliver us from every single situation, He often calls us to make hard decisions and does not provide a way out. 1 Samuel 27:1-12, 1 Samuel 29:4-8, 1 Samuel 30:1-6 1 Samuel 21:1-6, 1 Samuel 20:1-42, Joshua 2:1-24, 6:22-24, Judges 16:4-17, Exodus 1:15-20, Exodus 2:1-3 - In each and every case a sin of commission or of ommission was committed to save lives, lives that were within God's plans to be saved, and there was never going to be a plan B, there was only plan A. Another good example is David and Bathsheba, there was only plan A, Solomon came from an adulteress relationship whether we think it was right or not, which I do not, but there was never going to be a plan B by God to bring it about. See that link of Doc's above to see why that is even possible on any level. blessings abound, bowler |
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5 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | skccab | 207978 | ||
Shalom Bowler, Email me with your thoughts on David, it's in my profile :-) (This is the only way I had to reach you.) Cheri |
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