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1 | ... | Eph 2:15 | skccab | 211174 | ||
Shalom Ovadyah, Welcome to SBF. I hope you stay around and study with us. Your choice of screen name tells me that you already KNOW that Rabbi Sha'ul/Paul said no such thing!! It's just that we've been taught to read it that way. :o) If you wish to talk further offline, you are more than welcome to email me (it's in my user profile) Cheri |
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2 | ... | Eph 2:15 | BradK | 211187 | ||
Hi Cheri, I'm confused then, What did Paul mean in Eph. 2:15? Does not Rom 10:4 make it clear?. "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." (NASB) Christ was born, lived and taught under the law. What he said in Matt. 5- the Sermon on the Mount- was said under the law. He had not yet gone to the cross! The law was abolished at the cross as a means of righteousness. ( Rom. 7:6, Gal. 3:11, 13, 21) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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3 | ... | Eph 2:15 | skccab | 211201 | ||
Shalom BradK, The word used in Rom. 10:4 that was translated "end" is telios which means "goal." Goal is not necessarily an end of something. As you courted your wife, your "goal" was marriage. Did reaching that goal cause you to end your courtship, or did it just deepen your lifelong goal of courting your wife? To me, the path to reaching that goal is to do as God commands, and for the most part, as long as you put the Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might and Love your neighbor as yourself into visible action, then you'll pretty much fulfill all the rest of the Torah, with a few exceptions. Those exceptions are very easily fulfilled because I'm grateful my Father redeemed me from the grasp of sin and death and I love Him. Speaking the Truth in Love also :o) Cheri |
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4 | ... | Eph 2:15 | BradK | 211234 | ||
Hi Cheri, I would submit that we're approaching this matter from very different orientations! I understand the analogy with my courtship, but Christ is now my goal, not the knowing the law. As Steve Bricker has already noted, if Christ has kept, fulfilled the law- which He has- what's left for me to do? What would be the purpose? As Gal. 3:24-25 states, "Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor." (NASB) The purpose of the law was (and is) to lead one to saving faith in Christ, not to keep it's precepts! No one can keep the law. The law is not abolished in that it still stands in all it's majesty and glory (Rom. 7:12). What has changed is the believers relation to the law! I'm no longer under it's condemnation and curse! (Rom.8:1, Col.2:14) Pauls entire argument in Galatians is to those who would seek to keep the law and not rest in faith for their justification. Note his words in Gal.5:4, "You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace." What matters now is "faith working through love", not adherence to the Torah! One cannot be both walking by faith (in Christ) and keeping the Torah. They're mutually exclusive:-) My goal is to "know Christ", not the Torah which is a mere shadow. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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5 | ... | Eph 2:15 | humbledbyhisgrace | 211238 | ||
Brother Brad, An excellent post! Well stated and with great care for not only what you said but how you said it. This my brother is a great example of teaching the truth of the word of God and doing so in a loving and honoring way! Steve |
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