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1 | can i pay my tithes to my mother? | 2 Cor 9:7 | EdB | 109206 | ||
Paraclete The fact you used this quote to justify your position on tithing tells me you don't understand the present practice at all. Your view is from a an anti position, anti-church, anti-Christianity, anti-anything that doesn't fit in with your gnostic view of life and religion. “Tithing” as practiced as a requirement to meet Levitical law was bondage to the law. It wasn’t being done for the right attitude or in the right manner it was done for one reason and one reason only, perceived justification by keeping the Law. Jesus set us free from the bondage to the law, but He did not set us free to ignore the law. In other words we are not justified by the law but the law is still the standard by which we are to live. Under that law was a support system for the religious system or church. That need still exists today, without faithful giving the church can not survive. People must give, but they give not because it makes or proves them holy. They give to because that is how God said the church would be supported. We give today not out of necessity of justification but out of love to God and Christ that breeds a desire to follow and obey God’s commandments. MacArthur understands this and his intended audience understands this, therefore this quote you used because you thought it supported your position really revealed how very little you understand about a real relationship with Christ. Stop worrying about all your goddesses, gnostic un-realities and start seeking a living relationship with Christ. EdB |
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2 | can i pay my tithes to my mother? | 2 Cor 9:7 | electionresults | 109207 | ||
Religion and Money..what a marriage! EdB said: "They give to because that is how God said the church would be supported. We give today not out of necessity of justification but out of love to God and Christ that breeds a desire to follow and obey God’s commandments." Sounds alot like Karl Marx: Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. IT IS THE OPIUM OF THE PEOPLE. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions. According to Karl Marx, religion is one of those social institutions which are dependent upon the material and economic realities in a given society. It has no independent history but is instead the creature of productive forces. As Marx wrote, "The religious world is but the reflex of the real world." This, very simply stated, is Marx's contribution to the study and understanding of religion: religion can only be understood in relation to other social systems and the economic premises of the society in which it occurs. But Marx goes further and asserts that religion is only dependent upon economics, nothing else - so much so that the actual doctrines of the religions are almost irrelevant. Third, he sees religion as fundamentally hypocritical. Although it might profess valuable principles, it ends up siding with the economic oppressors. Jesus preached helping the poor, but the Christian Church merged with the oppressive Roman state, taking part in the literal enslavement of people for centuries. In the Middle Ages, the Catholic Church preached about heaven and spirit, but strove to acquire as much property and earthly power as possible. Martin Luther preached the ability of each individual to interpret the Bible, but ended up siding with the aristocratic rulers and against peasant revolutionaries who fought against economic and social oppression. According to Marx, this new form of Christianity, Protestantism, was a production of new economic forces as early capitalism developed. New economic realities required a new religious superstructure by which it could be justified and defended. |
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3 | can i pay my tithes to my mother? | 2 Cor 9:7 | BradK | 109208 | ||
electionresults (Chochma, context, kichmon, et al: say what? Could you please clarify exactly what it is you're saying? I've read Marx, etc. but have no idea of how the connection exists between him and what brother EdB said. BradK |
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