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1 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136787 | ||
Clarke's commentary uses Jesus and Paul's quote from Isaiah 6:9,10 to prove that God is the one doing the blinding. If you have found this interesting... Please see a rebuttal to Clarke's commentary - it's two Parts. I go line-by-line, stating Clarke's thought or position first, followed by a response. It's "reasonably" long and a good read because it contains many scriptures to reason on. I trust you and others will enjoy it. Please check out: ID# 136012 Questions and/or Subjects for 2 Cor 4:1 Author Date (Eastern Time) 2 corn. 4:4 the god of this world hath b (?) matronsgt13 Tue 10/26/04, 8:38am Specifically, these posts... Part 1 - "exceedingly unlikely" - but ... pcdarcan Wed 10/27/04, 4:52pm Part 2 - "exceedingly unlikely" - but ... pcdarcan Wed 10/27/04, 5:04pm |
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2 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | srbaegon | 136794 | ||
Hello pcdarcan, You do not have a rebuttal. A rebuttal is logical and cogent. Steve |
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3 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136837 | ||
Could you be more specific? What was not logical or understandable? Perhaps I could assist if you were more specific. (Proverbs 4:7). Saying that 'the god of this world' in 2 Cor 4:4 is the Creator - as opposed to Satan - is not logical. And, more importantly is not scriptural. Please consider... Jesus words in prayer to his loving Father is "additional" support that Satan is "the god of this world", and not Jesus' Father: "I have given them [Jesus' diciples] your word and the world hated them, for they are not of this world any more than I am of this world. My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. "They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth. As you sent me into the world (Compare Heb 3:1 where Jesus is called an apostle - form Greek meaning sent forth one), I have sent them into the world." - John 17:14-18 (NIV) Jesus indicates 'I am not of this world', 'nor are my disciples' and consequently petitions his Father to "protect them from the evil one". Given Jesus' words above, God (the Father of Jesus) cannot be "the god of this world" in 2 Cor 4:4, who "blinded the minds of the unbelivieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ". NASB I am only trying to help with this question about 2 Cor 4:4, so please let me know what you find to be illogical about my response to Clarke's commentary? Thank you. |
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4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | srbaegon | 136853 | ||
Hello pcdarcan, I only need one example. And I quote: B. "and were there not a rooted prejudice in favor of the common opinion," b. Rooted prejudice? - strange way of saying 'many believe Satan to be the god of this world' and they do this based on the Bible, just look at the posts in this forum using scriptures to back up their reason. Interesting that a synonym of prejudice is "narrow-mindedness". It sounds like Clarke is using this phrase "rooted prejudice" in a derogatory sense - both judgemental and condescending. ---------------------------- You are guilty of the very thing you accuse Clarke of. Steve |
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5 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136858 | ||
How is that illogical to the discussion of 2 Cor 4:4? (You're side-stepping my sincere question.) You said you found the rebuttal illogical and not rational. Please provide detailed examples, as this is what fosters healthy Bible discussion and understanding. Your reply has nothing to do with "the meat" of the discussion around 2 Cor 4:4 contained in the 'Clarke's rebuttal' post. Certainly you must have specifics - unless you didn't read all the responses and Bible references in your own copy of the Bible? How else can one prove who 'the god of this world' is unless they use the Bible as the authority? I trust that is what people on this forum want - scriptural support of any purported understanding. I'm sure this would be a worthwhile scriptural discussion, if you would only provide some detailed examples of what you found specifically to be illogical and irrational in the rebuttal dealing specifically with Clarke's commentary on why he feels God - and not Satan - is "the god of this world". What specifically in the rebuttal was illogical? Thank you. |
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6 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | srbaegon | 136896 | ||
Hello pcdarcan, I gave you an example. Personal attacks on Clarke side-steps the issue he brings forth. Steve |
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7 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136954 | ||
Did you read the whole response or did you get turned off, not by a personal attack, but more of an observation about his choice of terms "rooted prejudice"? - I explained logically why this didn't apply to all those in this forum as everyone has supplied "scriptural evidences" NOT based on "rooted prejudice". In my book, that's just a "set-up" phrase for his adherents. May I ask, 'What do you read that was so disagreeable or personal?' To set matters right, the Clarke rebuttal response is not at all a personal attack on Clarke himself, which is what you make it sound like in your post. It's a detailed crafted response to each assertion of Clarke, using scripture (the Bible) to explain the disagreement. And, I ask again, what part of the response to Clarke's commentary on 2 Cor 4:4 did you find illogical? You did read it all, yes/no? And, reference all the cited scritures? - after all, this is a Bible Study Forum and specific Bible verses are very relevant to any Bible discussion. |
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8 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | srbaegon | 136993 | ||
I will address your postings directly rather than through this thread. Steve |
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9 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136996 | ||
Good idea... this will help others to follow the logic of the threads leading out of the Clarke rebuttal post, thus making it easier to look up the scriptural references... thank you Steve. | ||||||