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1 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | kalos | 136968 | ||
You write: "I do not have to know any Greek to understand the word of God." Define "understand". There are different levels of understanding. Grace to you, Kalos |
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2 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136977 | ||
Kalos, This taken directly from my post: Well, I don't read, speak or understand Greek. But, I know that I do not have to know any Greek to understand the word of God. Tim's point has been based on his "understanding" of the Greek language and the reference of 'ho theos' and how many times it has been used and how many times it has meant Jehovah God and how many times it has not meant Jehovah God. Well, I am saying this very clearly, I do not read, speak, or understand (if you were speaking Greek to me, I would not be able to understand you or even recognize you speaking Greek) and I know that I do not have to know any Greek to be able to realize the meaning of a passage of Scripture in the word of God. I have not read anywhere nor ever heard from anyone that I or anyone else for that matter had to know Greek to understand what God's word means. Mike |
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3 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | Morant61 | 136980 | ||
Greetings Mike! Have you got a Strong's concordance? Doing word studies is quite easy, even if one does not know Greek. Find a word that you are intested in studying in more depth and look up it's number in Strongs! In this case, I was looking at a word that is used many times in the NT - 'theos' or God. It's Strong's number is 2316. You can find Strong's online as well or in some Bible software. This will make the task much easier. 'Theos' occurs 1343 times according to Strong's! In this case, I wanted to find out how 'ho theos', which is simply the word with the definite article, was used in the New Testament. So, I used my Bible software to search for every occurance of 'ho theos'. Thus, I found that it occurs 243 times. Then, I simply read each verse where it occurs. This is a long example, but there are many such word studies that can be very valuable. Again, I stress my friend that you do not HAVE to know Greek. However, you are placing your trust in someone else to do the translations for you. If they are good translators, you are fine. But, the originals were written in Hebrew, Greek, and some Aramaic. So, it is a great help to get to the place that one can read the originals. Dr. John MacArthur used to say that today is the best time to live if one does not know Greek. There are so many resources available to help one to dig into the original, even without having to learn the language. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136995 | ||
Tim, Thank you for the information about Strong's concordance. I had never used one before. I went to google and searched and the first one that came up led me to blueletterbible.org I searched using Strong's number 2316 and it indeed is God. I then searched Strong's number 3588 which is the defintie article 'ho' you have mentioned before. 2 Cor 4:4 is not listed on the results page for Strong's number 3588, but is listed on the results page for Strong's number 2316. You might want to check this out. This is from one of your previous posts about this verse: In the process of my interpretation, I have relied on several pieces of evidence. 1) There is no verse in Scripture where Satan is explicitly called a god. 2) The definite article is used in 2 Cor. 4:4. It is a reference to 'ho theos', not just a 'theos'. 3) Scripture is quite clear that while some things are called gods, there are in fact no other gods. 4) God is the only one spoken of as 'blinding' people in Scripture. Using this data, I interpret 2 Cor. 4:4 to be a reference to the only true God You state that the definite article is used in 2 Cor 4:4. But when I used the verse retrieval tool on blueletterbible.org, it uses Strong's number 2316 for god and not the definite article of 'ho theos' Strong's number 3588. Also, have you read Romans 12:2? It is as follows from (NASB): Romans 12 2 And do not (1) be conformed to (2) this world, but be transformed by the (3) renewing of your mind, so that you may (4) prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect. This verse lists the following as the numerical reference for #2 which is 'this world': Matt 13:22; Gal 1:4; 1 John 2:15 Please read these three verses, then please post how YOU can still think Jehovah God is doing the blinding mentioned in 2 Cor 4:4. All three of these verses are very good, but please pay special attention to 1 John 2:15 of NASB. Mike |
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5 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | Morant61 | 137015 | ||
Greetings Mike! Blueletterbible is a neat site! :-) I have noticed over the years that most software programs have trouble with the definite article. I think it has something to do with the fact that there are also pronouns, which in certain forms, look just like the definite article. Apparently, Blueletterbible's program is only listing places where the definite article occurs by itself. For instance, in 2 Cor. 4:6, it lists the definite article only once, but the first phrase reads: "Because the God He who says...". The word it is identifying as 3588 is actually a relative pronoun. The definite article (in several forms) actually occurs 10 times in 2 Cor. 4:4. If you click on the link to show the Greek text of 2 Cor. 4:4 you will see: "en ois o theos" The 'o' in the phrase above is the definite article. ************************************* I checked out your verses! Rom. 12:2 Mt. 13:22, and Gal. 1:4 all use a different Greek word than 2 Cor. 4:4 and 1 John 2:15. The former use 'aion', while the latter two use 'kosmos'. As I pointed out to Pcdarcan, there are various meanings for 'kosmos' or 'world'. In John 3:16-17, God is said to love the world. There though, the world refers to the people of the world. In 1 John 2:15, 'world' seems to refer to the lusts and desires of sinful man - see v. 16. None of these verses though use the term 'blinded'. The verses I cited for you before specifically say that God has blinded, or given 'eyes that could not see'. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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