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1 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | srbaegon | 136853 | ||
Hello pcdarcan, I only need one example. And I quote: B. "and were there not a rooted prejudice in favor of the common opinion," b. Rooted prejudice? - strange way of saying 'many believe Satan to be the god of this world' and they do this based on the Bible, just look at the posts in this forum using scriptures to back up their reason. Interesting that a synonym of prejudice is "narrow-mindedness". It sounds like Clarke is using this phrase "rooted prejudice" in a derogatory sense - both judgemental and condescending. ---------------------------- You are guilty of the very thing you accuse Clarke of. Steve |
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2 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136860 | ||
btw: I supplied further scriptural proof of why Satan - and not Jesus' Father - is "the god of this world" in 2 Cor 4:4, but no acknowledgement from you (was it logical or illogical, scriptural or not scriptural?). Excerpt of Jesus prayer to God: "I have given them [Jesus' diciples] your word and the world hated them, for they are not of this world any more than I am of this world. My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one." John 17:14,15 (NIV) Jesus prayed that God not take the disciples out of the world for they had a preaching commision to enlighten people to the gospel. (Matthew 28:19,20... they were to preach until the end of this age -or- world as we know it.) Jesus also said he and his disciples 'were not of this world'. This would be a strange statement in prayer to "the god of this world" - if you believe this to be God - wouldn't you agree? Of course, since Jesus is 'not of this world', neither is God "the god of this world". These are the scriptures talking, not me. |
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3 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | Morant61 | 136862 | ||
Greetings Pcdarcan! May I comment upon your application of John 17:14-15? The term 'world' is used in many different ways in Scripture. Sometimes, it refers to the physical earth. Sometimes, it refers to the 'system' of fallen men who oppose God. Further, several different Greek words are translated as 'world'. The word translated as 'world' in John 17:14-15 is not the same Greek word translated as 'world' in 2 Cor. 4:4. Therefore, the passage really proves nothing. However, even if the same word were used, your case does not logically follow. Scripture also tells us that God loves the world, that God created the world, that God sent His Son to save the world. Is He not also the God of this world that He created, loves, and saves? :-) He is God of all, whether they want to admit it or not! ;-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136883 | ||
Tim, It is so funny to me how your whole basis for "discussing" this verse is the use of god vs. God. Yet, when you (who knows Greek) type, you use both little g and BIG G. Why the difference? Is it to clarify your point as to who you are referring to in your post? This is 1 John 4:14 (NIV) 1 John 4 14And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. Who is the Father? and why is it capitalized? who is the Son? and why is it capitalized? who is the Savior? and why is it capitalized? In case you are not familiar or can not find your Greek text to interpret these, I will tell you who each is... the Father is God. the Son is Jesus Christ. the Savior is also Jesus Crhist. Your last post contained the following: Scripture also tells us that God loves the world, that God created the world, that God sent His Son to save the world. Is He not also the God of this world that He created, loves, and saves? :-) Scripture does not support the answer you give to the question... "Is He not also the God of this world that He created, loves, and saves?" What book and verse is that from? Please provide scriptural evidence to support this claim. Mike |
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5 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | flinkywood | 136899 | ||
Mike, is your point that the doctrine of the Holy Trinity is false? Colin |
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6 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136934 | ||
Colin, I am not sure what you mean? I completely agree with the Holt Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit. He is three different entities all in the great I AM. My main point to Tim was why did he differentiate between god and God when that is his main position against the use of 'god of this world' not referring to Satan. Even the NASB, which most consider the most accurate translation, uses little g god at the beginning of the verse and BIG G God at the end of the verse when referring to God the Father. I only used 1 John 4:14 as an example where other names are used for God and Jesus. God is referred to as the Father and Jesus is referred to as his Son and the Savior. |
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7 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | flinkywood | 136963 | ||
Mike, I don't see what the fuss is about Satan being a god. Is this merely semantics? Colin |
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8 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136967 | ||
To me, there is a big difference between Satan blinding the minds of the unbelievers so they can't see the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. and saying God blinds the minds of the unbelievers so they can't see the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. |
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9 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | pcdarcan | 136983 | ||
And me too! By golly, going around attributing God Almighty to being "the god of this world" who "blinds the minds of the unbelievers" needs to be addressed and you are correct in doing so! - I have appreciated your scriptural support and stance on this. It's not a trivial matter, for it wouldn't have been included in the Bible. And, the Apostle Paul didn't trivilize or play down this fact either, as we recognize when we read the complete letter of 2 Cor. Only seven paragraphs before warning about "the god of this world" who "blinds the minds of unbelievers" Paul warns: "in order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes." (2 Cor 2:11) Its crystal clear that Paul (amongst other things) certainly had the crafty Satan on his mind when writing this letter and all that have read my post about the internal evidences in 2 Cor. pointing to Satan, as "the god of this world" have additional proofs to consider. There is certainly far more scriptural evidence proving Satan to be "the god of this world" as opposed to God Almighty and apparently most Bible translators recognize this fact, for as you have stated, "the god of this world" is by and large tranlated small "g", but later in the same verse, as capital "G" for God Almighty. |
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